The Legend of Korra Book 3: Change criticism. The show is hitting really sour notes at its end

The first time I was watching Legend of Korra Book One I was really thrilled. A female, muscular, taller probably kick-ass avatar — yeah that’s cool! Sign me up!

Yeah.

That was then.

Book One had a lot going for it but the mettle to the crucial spine of the series was suffering a dry spell in creative development and persistence in that development. I am not going to compare this series to Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend Of Aang but I know some points I should. In ATLA there were vast paces to character growth and really beautiful martial arts, accompanied with great themes and not to mention even distinctive only one episode characters. ALOK lacks all of these — ALOT. Yes, it is fun. Yes I loved it in the series premier when Korra was so strong that she grabbbed a firebender and threw him into a shop window. Yes, I loved that she engaged with her love interest from the start. It made sense for young adults to be a bit more upfront about feelings at times. What I did know is that that is all this series was going to amount to.

Seriously.

There are so many flaws in the character of Korra. Yes, I watch the series. Yes, it has some good points and has some continuity but it lacks momentum and it lacks ideas. It has some good originality I will give it that. But it horribly suffers in execution not to mention that Korra is, to some extents, a misogynistic character. She was supposed to be the opposite of Aang that means she was to be more physically inclined than Aang but as Aang I thought that she would, by the end of the penultimate book, learn to be more of a spiritual person. In fact, all of her major challenges and enemies literally challenged her spirit. Her avatar spirit, her own Korra spirit and all that lay between it. I thought she would be matured by now. Instead, she has reverted back to a silly, non-wise, elitist Korra of Book One. Yes, while it may be Book Three Korra has shed the intensity and her wide level of thinking that she acquired in Book Two. Basically, she is being masqueraded as a beautiful muscular air-head. Her physicality is so focused on that I feel it getting on my nerves. A man or woman does not need to have social ideal body types to face sexism. Korra may be modeled after female wrestler types with a spiritual purpose but she is like wrestlers only a visual performance as one critique in Tumblr had pointed out.

Not to mention that Season Three is a pile of messed up garbage in terms of plot execution and even a ready base for the antagonist who has been denatured into just the stereotype mustached villain of old. After Season Two I was expecting more solid bodied and spiritual discourses in the series. Instead we got cheap villains who have a very weak goal and not to mention they are already labelled by fans as terrorists even before they did much because that is how freaking cliched this season is. Amon made you think and so did Unalaq. The Red Lotus have no strength and even their ideology has feels like a child’s endgame. Not to mention naming Zaheer the antagonist an Middle Eastern Arabic and pretty much a Muslim name is very, VERY RACIST.

His other teammates names are also rooted in other religions that are not necessarily Eastern but half Asian or Central Asian origins. They are far more exoticized than the other characters. This Red Lotus wants anarchy. They believe that the White Lotus are fools (to a large extent they are right) for becoming mercenaries rather than  do what their original creed and code was. They hate the way some of the leaders run things and mentions even corrupt leaders such as the Earth Queen Hyou-Ting and President of Republic City  Raiko who have truthfully failed their citizens. They want to assassinate them. Korra at first tries reasoning with Zaheer saying that he has spirituality and that as a new Airbender he can really help the world. However, Zaheer is adamant. Korra gives up too easily. Zaheer quotes one line by Guru Lahima who is a guy that Zaheer really liked and was an Airbender too and she just shuts up. Freezes actually. I mean, she doesn’t even try. She has seen the hierarchical destruction of Ba Sing Se by the Earth Queen and yet she doesn’t even figure that because of such stern cases of oppression Zaheer may have become attuned to a society without systems. She may be the avatar but she hasn’t seen Ba Sing Se before and known its actual socio-cultural climate. Zaheer does ironically have more experience. Neither did Mako and Boilin who realised, amidst the slums and poverty, that their father may have left the city due to the structured chaos and inequality present in its “rings” like society. Where the upper ring holds the Queen’s court and is surrounded by opulence, by triviality and corruption where food is plenty and not shared with the citizens (in fact when they meet their cousin hawking food it is distinct due to its spoiled and un-fresh character; the food is rotten. French Revolution anyone?). So by trivializing this scene, making it only a comedy and no social conscionability held you are actually making fun of democracy and of people’s right to eat. And ALOK is supposed to be a children’s show originally? It fails as a children’s show and it thinks that young adults are a bunch of dummies smitten only to graphically exoticism and visual pornography. It is low and very patronizing to think that about your viewers especially their fandom and their interests has been catalyst to many decisions you made. So, 1984 defined: television being a cataract and vibe to propagandist modes to even influence in a show that is meant to persevere righteousness and social balance? Yes ALOK becomes like Big Brother silencing the masses to ever question teaching children that questioning or even finding a middle ground between two oppositions is socially and even ethically wrong? Dubbing any dissenters as “terrorists” and then when seeing that fan reaction to the Red Lotus was so favourable that you have Zaheer perform assassination and make hostages out of innocent Airbenders. It feels they are forcing him to be very orthodox old age random villain stuff. They are coercing us to hate Zaheer more potently than we should. It feels very like mechanically done. I have only disinterest in him. The guy is written boringly.

So, anarchy is that?  Does even an amount or paucity of research go into ALOK? I use paucity because the research of this topic feels non-existent. The villain, reduced to some bad gestures, is an archetype that in a semi-postmodernist era of television or even on a postmodernist scale that most innovative writers and shows are attempting to debunk, to leave leaving that cocoon and just attempting to transport and do a small journey if necessary. Neither does Zaheer or any of his teammates have this. Unfortunately, neither does Korra. Her narrative is very feminine oriented. Wanna know how? Aang has a chance of growing and thus his growth getting stunted is a very chauvinistic philosophy if it’s only applied to males. Thankfully, Thank God literally, that they made characters like Toph who also grown a lot in the series. But yes in ATLA the major characters growing were mostly male. Here there is a female narrative of losing already established power. Which in itself is not misogynistic but I fear that it has a misogynistic and misandrist portrayal.  Korra is always defined as an avatar. Unlike Aang who is a person other than an avatar Korra can only ever be an avatar. It feels suffocating that Korra is always declaring that she is an avatar in the lineage of bending and that she can do this and she can do that. Best part of Aang was that he was physically a terrible avatar, (I think Korra may have a larger height than Aang in her full mid 40s adult self like Kiyoshi) as in aside airbending he sucked at other types of bending which was a promising concept. Korra did make really marvelous progress in bending in that she learned very early energy bending and then spirit bending which Aang did not most probably know. But Aang had different aspects to him as a person; he grew up as a person and also as the avatar. Korra’s growth is stunted and in a orthodox, sexualized, male-gaze oriented feminine way she is only trying to save the little shards of avatar-ness that she possesses that makes no sense.

Korra is reluctant to grow beyond “avatar-ness” in fact she bases her entire existence only to that role alone and that is a very reductionist and sexist way of reading a woman. Women are not only titles or only vessels for power; for God’s sake Korra is treated as that.  Very archaic and arcane methodology of viewing women is established to formulate her. It is pitiful that a strong female character protagonist is being homogenized into nothing but muscle and athlete pornography. Not to exclude that Asami, the other female character in the show, and a nonbender is totally sexualized. I do not remember Sokka meeting such treatment nor was he reduced to a bimbo in ATLA. In fact, Sokka was a very strong character. They are only scratching Asami on the surface of her inventiveness, technical and technological knowledge and dexterity to provide creative solutions. I love her unwavering loyalty to her friends and her ability to not be a begrudged youth or scorned women but these narratives are hardly explored because Asami is always a frivolous depiction of some Fire Nation beauty (it seems she has Fire Nation roots as both Sokka and Katara were Water Tribe Warriors, my bro always called Sokka a Water Warrior). None of other things about Asami is shown. Not to mention that Sokka is a very humane and human character who learns to be an able warrior for his people and the cause; he proves the essential need of nonbenders as much as Ty-Lee and Mei, and Suki had shown in the first show as they have different methods and valuable tactics of fighting. Asami is just stereotyped as the beauty and mitigated as the forlorn princess of a once rich corporation; add more layers and you make her Blanche from A Streetcar named Desire and have her go insane in the end.  Not to mention in Season Two she appropriated a Civil War in a nonchalant business tone on her corporation getting saved (sound familiar, isn’t this what corporations are criticised for aren’t they?). This transaction way of looking at war and not caring about lives is a problem of the modern age and instead of compassion and love that is displayed by Sokka, Asami acts as ruthless as Amon in what she thinks is delivering justice.  A friend even mentions that Asami must relegate her “Oh, I am daughter of a rich father” mentality and go on with her life. She is not merely future industries heir she is her own person and can make her own judgments. If she even scraps up the company to build another she can if she feels her father has already tainted the principalities it use to first employ. This show focuses too much on blood and secular lineages that have no bearing and only builds up the status quo of inequality and malformed individuality, and individual collective.

Not to mention that Boilin and Mako too have no chance of growing besides chauvinist archetypes of The Casanova and The Fool. A fan had mentioned that Boilin is too reduced as a comic relief and that it makes no sense to do so and I totally agree. You already have Varrick as a comic relief and the pet Pabu you don’t need to make a main character constantly be a comic relief. Boilin singularity is that he is The Fool and he played this card even in Season Three. In Season Two he reconciled with an abusive girlfriend without even critiquing that her possessiveness and superiority complex is neither charming nor helping her as a person. Boilin is always falling in love and rarely having fun in his love affairs. Mako on the other hand is known only as a dating agent, like a detergent. His singularity is that he is Korra’s boyfriend or Asami’s one time boyfriend and love interest.  Frankly, he is only known to be The Casanova. Such misandrist portrayal of a young, sensitive man is highly crap. Like really sexist. Mako clearly has his own dimensions too. The only title graduation he had is being with police and becoming detective. I was like what about his personal journey? Doesn’t he have other goals? Katara did and so did Sokka. Boilin got some time as Nuptuk and that was important but Mako hardly does anything by himself. We see him doing that in Season Two a bit investigating Verrick but he hardly keeps it up when he just ups and down kisses Asami. So basically this guy can only think with his dick? It is true I like MaKorra and that I really want them to be together but this is just plain ridiculous! Why are Mako and Boilin  so silly? So completely non-growing? All these writings on them are truly very limited.

I digressed with normal critique to further extrapolate the banality of Season Three. Korra is still a muscle-head, preferring to always take physical action rather than sorting out things in a non-linear holistic way that challenges her character and even her physicality. This is what Season Two exemplified that mere muscles alone cannot defeat spirits as she even lost in avatar state enabled. Season Three started with such promise of having her fight both physically and spiritually, mentally even because the Air Nation is not going to be rebuilt on brute force alone it needs ingenuity and also a large amount of spirit and dedication to do so. Korra must also attune to herself as having no avatar state which is very beautifully challenging. It always introspection and an innovative that even rivals and surpasses Aang’s progress. Instead Korra bemoans like a drama queen whore left, right and center of having no avatar state and skillfully dismissing time to ruminate and also gain referential or even observation-based knowledge about the world. In her ordinariness now she can better communicate with the people and feel what they feel. None of this connection is shown. Korra immediately faces physical dangers that she can somewhat overpower. Her only physical challenge is that she had to learn metal bending (and chastise Mako for hurrying her as a fugitive escaped because she was still a noob at it which doesn’t add much really).  Zaheer and the others are so scatterbrained that they hardly pose as credible foes. Like Wile Coyote they make randomized, nonsense violent gestures without much speculation at what the hell they are doing. For a pseudo-wise guy Zaheer surely is an ignoramus and his girlfriend P’Li, his comrades Ming-Hua and Ghazan are equally ignoramus with him. Apparently I got this from Korraspirit in tumblr but guru Lahima’s quote was this:

I was once asked what it means to enter the void. I will tell you. An airbender may meditate for a hundred years trying to detach herself from the world, but she cannot do it. Humans cherish human life, and by that they are bound to this world. The only way to abandon the world is to abandon one’s humanity. New growth cannot exist without first the destruction of the old. The void is found in the sowing of death. From that death springs life on the wind.

-Guru Laghima

I do not understand how he quotes in brief and also have a girlfriend and just think that disorder is order when Lahima just does not care about humanity in general. Lahima is like a very orthodox or fanatical ascetic who is probably angry at something and mouthing that off. It makes no sense to even think he presupposes anarchy because anarchy itself is so human and he doesn’t care about this and does Zaheer even understand this. It is just very perplexing that Zaheer will just say one line of this to Korra (which I emboldened) and have Korra, even a layman in Lahima studies, not even question that an air nomad may not have meant such a thing as they are very centered and spiritual people like the Water Tribe (more corporeal clans are Earth and Fire in this universe from my understanding).  And that maybe he means at the end of one’s life one has to shed his or her humanity as in his human skin but they are still human spirits as Iroh.  Another study may show that Lahima may have been upset living as an Air Nomad and must have become a bit angry at the cloistered way many air nomads lived and he felt that it rejected humanity in many ways because many criticise asceticism, its severity as deprivation so he could have just been reflecting on that. Korra has no knowledge of both present or past histories of socio-cultural conduct so she cannot even evaluate the statement Zaheer made. It is a shame really that Korra cannot even ask Tenzin or someone close to him that why an airbender would say this as an airbender has inspired Zaheer and that says a lot. No, that narrative is excluded too. It feels painfully like a betrayal when the inventors of a show presume that we are so dumb to just swallow any crap they give. It feels like we are the daft emperor who are given “clothes” and wear the masterpiece of nothingness and expose raw idiocy. I think the show creators take us for that. It makes no sense. Any of it. A friend and I agreed that this the worst season of Avatar ever both combining ALOK and ATLA and that it spews out stupidity is quite apparent. The weakening of characters and story is a travesty to a potential richness this story has.

I still watch it hoping for changes and just watching. I am not so interested in it anymore. I am just curious on how this train wreck will end. I think the show cannot write or handle female protagonists and is just waiting for this ALOK to end so that they can get a guy avatar to come back. After all these narratives are so chauvinistically handled that in this day and age you feel insulted to see that your personhood regardless you are a man or woman has become reduced to this crap.  They can make another female avatar  who is fire or earth based I actually want to see them do that. Make the next avatar a girl too and that would be interesting and if they can make it multidimensional like ATLA it would be great. But then again these cultural politics have little merit to discuss things. They just want to do stuff that hardly makes sense or even culturally, psychologically, sociologically and individually satisfying or engaging. They want to marry cliches, overused stereotypes and go along with whatever garbage handed to them to preserve status quo. To preserve totalitarian ideologies and do stuff that makes no sense.

ALOK has bombed this season. They want to make it out alive they must rethink and add layers to a potentially rich story.

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36 thoughts on “The Legend of Korra Book 3: Change criticism. The show is hitting really sour notes at its end

  1. You are a horrible writer. It was so hard to follow your thoughts as I read through. Your points may have been more visible and acceptable had you read your work over again. The grammar kept jumping out at me. Did you have a thesaurus by your said as you wrote this? Just because you use words many people haven’t seen before, doesn’t mean the content is that much more profound.

    I felt like your points were valid, the ones I could follow, but became diluted with your attempt to sound smart.

    1. I am not a horrible writer if you think that I am using words to sound smart. If you could not follow something due to grammatical and syntactical errors I will definitely look into it. I will definitely give significance to your complaint about those things. But if you read analytic essays you know this was an analytic review thus I used language that is used in that medium. The words I used are used by a lot of people not only me. They aren’t outdated grammar. I will try to revise my piece but I do think it’s pretty insulting to say I am trying to act smart when I am merely writing and not doing anything of that sort or caliber or even category.

      Thank You very much.

  2. fucking thank you ive been looking forward to these critical and analyntical reviews and these are my same problems and issue i have this series and man they broke so many laws , ideas and concept of the avatar world and a narrative and all of sudden these creators dont know how to write female characters or explore and developed their plots and characters hell atla ,but in here what the hell happen. thank you dude you are my hero finally someone with a brain who can see these problems of this terrible orchestrated show that had so much promise and potential and your not one of those fanboys (who i consider not fans at all but cult fanactics ) once again man i have to thank you .are you gonna give a full review for book 3 and talk about the dropped plot points in replubic city , earth kingdom and and the new airbenders and the past lives.

    1. I am really happy that you liked my review. It was difficult to write as I had such high expectations of ALOK that I was immensely pissed up to the third degree. It was ruined by a convoluted storyline, antagonists that don’t matter and especially the stupidity of the final fight. One of my friends commented it reminded him of a weird moshed up battle of DBZ. If you think of the final battle of Book 2 where Korra went into her spirit body to stop UnaVaatu then this fight is a weak interpretation of things. It made no sense whatsoever. Zaheer was such a weakling villain who had no potential and I was so exasperated that Korra never asks why these people are so hellbent on getting rid of her. What really angered me is that people in Avatar Wiki go like oh terrorist this and that like hey you need more critical analysis of something to even define terrorist. Why are no one calling Hyou-Ting a terrorist or Raiko for exiling the avatar when people really needed her? It was ample waste of good thought.

      Korra’s portrayal is almost like a Damsel in distress she is always under trouble cannot even get out of situations without using force and then also acts like a manipulative person at times, too hotheaded and too stupid. She is like a stupid muscle head. If she is modeled after female wrestlers are those guys implying that wrestlers and bodybuilders are non-intelligent? And as the avatar her person hood should now evolve like Aang;s who rejected his title but then embraced it so she should, who stupidly and pompously embraces it, must also know that sometimes Korra as a person, not as a avatar, must shine through. Wasn’t this the integral part of Book 2 where Korra’s inner spirit triumphs mostly singlehandedly against a dark avatar? I mean what happened to that matured Korra? I want to see how they finish the series but I am gravely disappointed at their execution. I may not do an episode by episode review. Please read my other reviews if you want to.

      Thank You for your kindest words and thank you for your appreciation. I felt it wholeheartedly 🙂

    1. I rather not. Making Korra and Asami a couple was one of the stupidest things in a TV show. What were those guys thinking? Garnet is queer, Marceline and Bubblegum are bi but none of them had to face this reductionist queer representation. Korra is bisexual but she is made into a fetishized bi woman. I am so angry at this because Korra being bi, at this point, with no prehistory or narrative is a reductionism. Also with Asami of all people. That is like really cheap. It would have made sense with Kuvira but Asami? It was really strange. Like Asami is the person Korra least interacted with. Their friendship is also pretty strangely conducted. All this BS is getting me down. I love Korra but I hated how the show was handled.

  3. You know what Aqilaqamar? I’m not okay with your review. For me (and all) The book 3 was very good and Zaheer is the best villain of western animation. But It’s your opinion and I’m not coolman229 so I hope you have a good day

    1. You can disagree on whatever you wish. Many people did not like B3 and many people did. It’s perfectly fine if you disagree. Good day to you too.

  4. Regarding Korra as a character and her character development:
    Season 1: I’m going to start at the very beginning, because I think it’s important to understand the very basics of who Korra is before adding more things on top of each other without context. Korra starts off really hot-headed and narcissistic. This is because, all her life, ever since we first saw her, she is absolutely in love with the fact she’s the Avatar. She’s also been stuck in the White Lotus compound her entire life, preparing and training passionately, and while she is certainly fond of the idea of proving her powers as the Avatar, she also absolutely loathes being isolated from the rest of the world, and wants very desperately to have friends. Remember this, because this is not only why she decides to leave in the first place, but it’s also the cause for an extremely pivotal event at the end of the season. But most importantly, she’s proud of the role she’s inherited and it’s important to her that she can be the best Avatar she can possibly be. Being the Avatar is all Korra has had in her life, which is why Amon absolutely terrifies her. He threatens to take away everything Korra thinks she is. Korra goes from being a cocky narcissistic teenager to a scared kid in only a few episodes. She’s afraid Amon will take the Avatar role from her by removing her bending, thereby reducing her to nothing. This is the one obstacle that is preventing her from becoming a full Avatar and being able to airbend. Throughout the season, Korra’s pride sometimes overcomes her fear (like when she challenges Amon to a duel or when she confronts Tarrlok in his office) but whenever Amon comes into play, she runs and she hides. It’s only during the finale that Korra overcomes her fear so that she can protect the only thing that matters as much to her as being the Avatar: her new friend(s), Mako, who is very nearly about to be equalized by Amon. By letting go of her fear to save her friend and by accepting her new reality, she unblocks her airbending and connects with her past lives (as we see later when Aang restores her bending).
    Season 2: So Korra concludes the first season having conquered her fear, but she enters the second season with an entirely new problem; even though Korra has defeated Amon, people don’t have as much faith in her as she’d hoped. Her dad tries to hold her back from Unalaq’s training due to his own secrets, a move that hurts Korra very much. Tenzin doesn’t understand Korra’s frustration at all and doesn’t know what’s right for her as the Avatar. Lastly, her tribes are soon to be engaged in civil war and even her fellow tribesmen don’t trust her, and she isn’t sure how to save them. Needless to say, at the start of season two, Korra is pretty insecure about her abilities as the Avatar, and she takes it out on just about everybody. The world is looking to her for guidance. It’s her moment of truth, and she’s afraid she’s going to blow it. The only person who has any kind of faith in her is Unalaq. Korra appreciates this very much, and Unalaq uses it to manipulate her into doing his villainy dirty work. Korra starts to piece some nasty things together, particularly his shady past with her father, and comes to realize that his faith in her is vacuous. Once Korra realizes Unalaq is the real threat, she starts to realize that Tenzin and her father aren’t so bad, and so she apologizes to them both and them to her. They’re the ones who really care about her, not the villain who manipulated her. Along the way, Korra also learns about Wan, the very first Avatar. Wan is a badass and Korra knows it. She may even be a little jealous, but that’s me speculating. At any rate, Wan’s story has a huge impact on Korra’s way of thinking. But this doesn’t change Korra’s perception of herself. Even though she apologizes to Tenzin and her father, she’s still extremely insecure about her abilities as the Avatar. If anything, Wan’s story makes this worse. By now, she’s lost Jinora to Unalaq too… He’s outplayed her at every turn. During the finale, when Vaatu gets free, Korra knows she messed up bad. When Unavaatu destroys Raava, Korra is all but defeated. She thinks her insecurities have become true: that she’s a terrible Avatar and the world will now suffer for it. Then Tenzin comes in and tells her something very important. He tells her (roughly) that Korra’s role as the Avatar doesn’t define her. He says, look at Wan. Wan is just a normal guy who wanted to do the right thing. Being the Avatar had nothing to do with the deeds that he did. “Let go of your attachment to who you think you are, and connect to your inner strength,” Tenzin says to Korra, and for a moment, Korra does. “Do you really think I can do this?” Korra nervously asks Tenzin. Without hesitation, he faithfully responds, “I have no doubt.” One of my favorite moments in either show. This moment is absolutely massive in Korra’s development. At this moment, Korra lets go of her ego caused by her self-destructive attachment to her role as the Avatar. When the battle is over, Korra realizes that Tenzin is right; she isn’t defined by her role, she is, first and foremost, Korra, and Korra is strong on her own and doesn’t need to define herself as just the Avatar. Absolutely huge 180 in Korra’s character here. Ironically, at the start of the season, she was mad that nobody had faith in her, when in reality; she just didn’t have enough faith in herself. Wan’s story, and Unalaq himself along the way, also help Korra realize that separating the physical and spirit world really sucks. She makes her first big decision (arguably the biggest decision in the entire canon) to leave the spirit portals open. Her decision here was based on her finding her own path as the Avatar. Leaving the spirit portals open is a testament to how much Korra trusts her own judgement. Naturally, this decision causes some huge changes that Korra has to deal with later.
    Season 3: Season 2 was pretty crazy. This one is much simpler. At the start of the season, things are not going well for Korra. Sure, she and her friends now truly respect her, as does Korra herself, and she is convinced that this time she really has faced the worst of what can possibly go wrong. Korra’s enthusiasm and confidence is at an all-time-high, but her decision at the end of S2 turns many people against her. Korra is remorseful about her decision to leave the spirit portals open. While yes, it has reunited spirits and humans, it’s also ruined the lives of thousands of people who now have to deal with the spirits in their daily lives. Fortunately, there is some good news, as leaving the portals open grants random people the ability to airbend… …including Zaheer. Let me say now that the season is called Change for a reason. This season is all about Korra learning to accept the changes she’s made to world, and figuring out how to make the most of it for everyone. Initially, she’s afraid she’s ruined it, and that’s worsened by the fact that everyone in Republic City hates her, including President Raiko himself. As Tenzin tells Korra, change can be good or bad, depending on your point of view. New airbenders? Good change. Korra knows that the world has been wounded by Sozin’s mass genocide of the Air Nation. On top of that, she is extremely close to the last remaining pure family of airbenders, so it goes without saying that the development and safety of this resurgence of airbenders is paramount to her. It is both important to her dear friend Tenzin, and her duty as the Avatar to bring balance to the world. Misguided lunatic hell-bent on killing all world leaders? Bad change. Zaheer is her responsibility, and not only does he threaten to compromise the balance of the entire world, but he also threatens to destroy the new Air Nation, undoing all the good that Korra’s S2 decision has done for the world, and he comes dangerously close to succeeding. Zaheer checkmate’s her, placing the new Air Nation in unquestionable danger, so Korra willingly gives herself up knowing it will sway Zaheer from killing the Air Nation, and to preserve the good that her decision has brought for the world. This is the ultimate sacrifice, and it is a true testament to just how much Korra has grown selflessly since the S2 finale. Unfortunately, it’s much more of a sacrifice than Korra signed on for, and she gets fucked up bad in a few different ways.
    Season 4: This is probably the most complex season on the list here. In a handful of episodes, Korra’s character changes almost completely again. There is a lot to talk about here. Korra’s fight with Zaheer, while awesome, leaves Korra completely broken in many ways. At the start of the season, Korra is utterly broken, and there are a great many residual phobias, injuries, and scars that Zaheer has left upon her.
    Firstly though, keep these two things in mind: 1) Over the course of the last three seasons, the villains have been collectively developing this notion that the world doesn’t need the Avatar anymore, and Korra doesn’t deal with any of it until the series finale. When Korra’s getting tortured by Zaheer, she sees these visions of Vaatu, Unalaq, and Amon, telling her “I told you Korra. The world doesn’t need the Avatar anymore. Give up. Let go.” These words echo sharply within Korra, and it creates a truly daunting existential crisis within her. Kuvira is the symbolic manifestation of this crisis. While Korra is struggling to put on her clothes by herself, Kuvira is out there saving the world, and that destroys Korra’s spirit at every turn. Kuvira is proving that Korra’s biggest fear is true: the world doesn’t need the Avatar. It can take care of itself. Korra is still carrying her fear of uselessness from Amon, Unalaq, and Zaheer, and now she’s afraid Kuvira will replace/destroy her too.
    2) This is the second time now where Korra’s role as the Avatar has been gravely jeopardized. At the start of S2, Korra was a pretty irresponsible user of the Avatar state. During the battle with Unalaq, she lost all her past lives, a failure that Korra has never quite forgiven herself for, and remembers all-too-clearly. Zaheer, again, came extremely close to destroying not just Korra, but the Avatar cycle as a whole.
    As you can imagine, the S3 finale was much more traumatic for Korra than the S2 finale, so after S3 is when Korra starts to develop this fear of the Avatar state. Its visually implied in the show rather than spoken aloud, but this is the most sensible conjecture, in my opinion, for Korra’s PTSD; Korra is afraid that the next time she enters the Avatar state will be her last, that’s why Korra cannot connect to the Avatar spirit any longer, and as we know, Korra cares about her role as the Avatar very, very, very deeply. Her body is trying to reconnect with Raava, and every time she gets close, she is haunted by the vision of her on the fringe of death during her battle with Zaheer – of being chained up and vulnerable, the air leaving her lungs. Which is why we see Korra’s evil ghost, NegaKorra as some people call it, in the same appearance as when Korra nearly died. So Korra’s afraid that her past enemies are right, that her role as the Avatar is useless, but she’s too stricken by Zaheer’s poison to do something about it.
    As she learns that Kuvira has shown signs of becoming a dictator, she knows that she’s the only one who can stop it, but for the life of her, she just can’t summon the strength to do it. Feeling humiliated, she goes on this incredible journey of self-discovery by herself, ends up completely changing her image, and runs into Toph living out in the swamp. Here, Toph helps her, but she doesn’t fix Korra’s problems for her. Instead, she gives Korra some really incredible advice that Korra takes to heart. Firstly, Toph nonchalantly informs Korra that she’s got a crapton of metal still stuck inside her, but she can’t seem to get it out herself, so Korra resigns and helps Toph with some errands. Through her connection to the Banyan Grove Tree, Toph has watched the entire world from afar, and knows all-too-well about Korra’s past villains. Toph recognizes this existential crisis within Korra and she claims that the swamp understands Korra’s imbalance, namely, that Korra is still afraid of what her past enemies did to her. So she claims that, instead of resenting these horrible people and holding onto your fear for what they’ve done to you, you must let go and accept what they’ve done. Instead of hating them, and allowing this hate to manifest itself as old fear, you should instead try to learn from them. Toph just said out loud what the theme of the entire show is. Don’t fear your enemies; learn from them. Korra still doesn’t get it. She says, “Maybe you’re right, but how do I move on?” Toph claims that Korra’s years in recovery and exile have disconnected her from the world and that if Korra is to recover, she first needs to be with her friends and peers again, but Korra is still left with Toph’s message, and it’s an important message; don’t fear your enemies; learn from them.
    When Tenzin’s kids show up desperately looking for her to come save the world, Korra decides that she needs to get her act together and make a stand against this PTSD she is suffering from. So Toph makes Korra remove the excess metal poison within herself on her own. Korra does, and we’re led to believe that this was a huge triumph and now Korra is back to normal, but as we see from her first fight with Kuvira, this is not the case. Toph’s powerful message hasn’t sunk in with Korra yet. Korra thinks that without the poison, everything is okay, but it’s not. I listed Korra’s two biggest problems above, and Toph’s message about not fearing your enemies is the answer to #1. Ironically, it’s not until Zaheer himself compromises with Korra that she truly grasps what Toph is saying, and thus puts herself on the road to recovery. When Korra confronts Zaheer floating in his prison, she thinks that all it will take is to remind him he’s powerless, and then Korra will be free. Unfortunately for Korra, that wasn’t the case at all. Her fear of Zaheer is still very much alive and real. Korra openly admits that she’s run out of options, and she truly thinks that she’s screwed, broken beyond repair, but Zaheer tells her otherwise. Zaheer reassures her of her power. He says that the poison should have killed Korra, but there she is in front of him, and Zaheer is awed by this. Korra dismisses this, and sarcastically thanks him for effectively creating Kuvira. Zaheer expresses remorse for what Kuvira has done to the world, as she is directly at odds with the utopia and philosophy he represents. Zaheer is so upset at what Kuvira has done, that he’s willing to work with Korra to stop her and he convinces Korra that she’s out of options, so Korra does the only thing she can do. She stops being afraid of him and tries to learn what he is teaching her. In this moment, Korra heeds Toph’s message at last. In this moment, she fixes problems #1 and #2 in a single blow. By allowing Zaheer to guide her, she places trust within her worst enemy. She stops being afraid of him just long enough to see what he has to teach her, and he personally guides her out of her block and mental trauma. This is the most pivotal moment in the show. I think I may have accidentally said that twice now, but this time I really mean it. Korra finds peace with Zaheer and her past enemies by finding wisdom in their misguidance. When Zaheer offers to help Korra stop Kuvira, it’s also proof to Korra that what Toph said is true. Even though Zaheer is a bad guy, all he really wanted was freedom for all, i.e. there is goodness within Zaheer’s evil that should be recognized, and Korra realizes that she’s capable of empathizing with that goodness and learning something from it, just as Toph said she should, while still recognizing in the end that what he did was bad. Korra’s journey isn’t quite done yet though.
    Once she’s back to 100%, Korra stops Kuvira from blowing up the city, chases her into the spirit wilds, and then saves Kuvira from her own super-weapon. Why does Korra do this? Because just like with Zaheer, Korra recognizes the good within Kuvira, and has learned now that, even though Kuvira has done great evil, her intentions were pure. In my opinion, Korra’s talk with Kuvira, and the rest of the scene, is one of the greatest moments in either show. This scene proves to the audience that Korra understands fully what Toph is talking about, and believes in her words so much, that she’s willing to risk herself getting blown to shit by Kuvira’s superweapon to stand up for the fraction of good that we must recognize and nourish within Kuvira. To wish death upon your enemies is to hate them, to hate them is to invite fear, and fear is weakness. Why not accept what your enemies have done, and learn from them to better yourself instead? With her newfound wisdom, Korra talks down Kuvira and ends the war before it really starts. Kuvira is so struck by this, that she tells her soldiers to stand down, and says that Korra’s power (referring to both her impressive strength stopping the superweapon, and her profound character) “is beyond anything I can hope to achieve.” Korra takes down Kuvira peacefully, through empathy and understanding. Something Korra could never do before and Aang even failed to do. Her final note is one of self-reflection, where she accepts all she had to go through without regret, and makes peace with her struggle for balance. And now that she has found some peace within herself, she can can look more towards happiness and love. Despite all this she still feels hopeful that there is so much more for her to learn and grow, and self-improvement has become critically important to emotional regulation. She is both happy as she is, and a work in progress to be better.
    All of this exemplifies why Korra is a very well-developed character and one of my favorite characters in fiction. This immense journey she goes on proves to her that even your enemies deserve empathy, for both’s sake. Korra starts out so childish, with a seemingly irredeemable teenage narcissism, but her transformation is profound and inspiring. She develops into the wisest, most powerful Avatar that we know of, not just physical strength, but also profound character and grace.

    1. I partly agree with you. What I loved about your review is that you only talked about Korra. You didn’t necessarily bring anything out that didn’t need bringing. However. I think when Korra does get some development she is usually redacted. In B2, I liked Korra wanted to fight for her own spirit and herself Book 3 didn’t have much of Korra. Yes, thanks for pointing out Korra’s sacrifices which no one sees.

      You know by book 4 I thought Makorra would be canon because it was a relationship that grew through highs and lows. It defined both Korra and Mako but not negatively. It showed who they were as people and who they can be with people. Korrasami doesn’t do that. Yes, happy that Korra is queer because I always think most characters are queer or have the potential to have same sex relationships. No props for Korrasami. In Korra’s development Tenzin, Mako and Jinora has the most input. Asami did nothing. In fact, in B4 her relationship with Kuvira is so central that I wouldn’t have minded if it hinted Korra wants to be with together with Kuvira. She wants to have a new relationship with someone she has in common with. Mako is someone she literally grew with. These two people, to me, would have brought Korra “happiness and love” as you stated. The show was ruined with Asami suddenly having an interest in Korra. The interest Asami had in Korra in B1 is actually the best portrayal of their relationship. With mutual respect and understanding. An organic chemistry. In later books this evaporates completely so Asami’s sudden romantic interest in Korra was out of nowhere. It also portrays Asami in a negative light. Especially, her weird Out of character behaviour in B2 with Mako. Asami kissing Mako was like wtf moment for me. It made no sense in the narrative and who Asami is as a person. Also, Asami keeps on reiterating to korra she is the avatar which is not good for, as you mentioned, Korra’s development. Korra is the avatar, she embraced it: a bit too much. She needs to be independent of it too. So, what happens? Korra doesn’t get the sort of closure she needs as a person, her PTSD is not explored enough and she horrifically ends with someone who only sees her as an avatar.

      Korra, conceptually, is one of the best characters. Execution wise she has GLARING problems. I will always love Korra. She is one of the indispensable characters who I love. Also, she is canon bisexual which makes me happy as anything. However, the resolution to the series focused on Korrasami and pushed out Korra from her own fucking story. That I can’t forgive. It was a cheap ass move. If Asami and Korra were like a thing since middle of B2 I would have LOVED IT LIKE ANYTHING. I WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROUD KA SUPPORTER. Given Asami has no personality and that she is a hollow romantic interest makes me mad. Also, that Korra cannot pursue more knowledge or mental health in the series finale. Being alone made sense. Being with Mako or Kuvira made sense. Korra is my fav and she always will be. She deserved the best. I hope in future I get to see the best.

      1. Sorry that this reply is super duper later. I didn’t receive a notification for some reason.

        Anyways, first off, I would like to respectfully disagree with you about Asami having no personality and being a hollow romantic interest. One of the things I love and admire about Asami is the type of person she is. For a young CEO, she’s a pretty mature, strong, generous, caring, and very forgiving person who knows right from wrong. The defining moment for her character actually takes place pretty early on back in S1 when she turned against her dad. That moment said a lot about what kind of person she was and from there on out, everything she did in the show (collectively!!) constantly reaffirmed that. She could’ve sided with her dad over a bunch of people she barely knew and why wouldn’t she? Hiroshi was her last living family member! It took great courage and a strong sense of morality and justice for what she did. Yes, a firebender killed her mom but she still knew right from wrong and what her dad was doing was wrong. That is the kind of person she was for someone her age back in S1. She’s also surprisingly a mix of Katara, Zuko, and Aang when you really think about it. Like Katara in that she’s very supportive, caring, and has a strong sense of morality and justice and like Katara in that she can hold one hell of a grudge lol. Like Zuko in the parallels she shares with her own father and how she had to restore the honor of Future Industries as Zuko had to do for the Fire Nation. Like Aang, Asami is really forgiving, especially after she’s been deeply wronged and hurt (I.e. Willing to try to forgive her father despite how much he hurt her, willing to work with Varrick again despite the double cross, not holding any ill will towards Mako and Korra despite getting the short end of the stick in the love-triangle, etc.).

        If anything, Asami’s basically the ideal best friend ever! Someone who’s badass but very generous, caring, forgiving, and supportive AND hell is she one supportive friend! I mean, she was willing to drop everything just to travel halfway across the world to help Korra with her recovery. We have to keep in mind that she had a recovering FI to deal with at the time but she was willing to do that! This was actually one of the main reasons why I felt Asami had more than friendly feelings for Korra (among other things). I love my BFFs but to drop everything to travel halfway across the world for them for who knows how long?? I’m not so sure. I’m dedicated but am I that dedicated? Is anyone that dedicated? I also don’t see how this would put Asami in a negative light as Korra’s love interest now. All Asami has ever been when it comes to Korra is caring, respectful and supportive. Their dynamic in S3 is actually the best for me (and many others) not only because they were actually interacting more, but because they really came together despite everything and there was just so much understanding and respect between the two (again, despite everything). I’m also sorry, but I think your view of Asami is drastically different from my view of Asami. She only ever sees Korra as the Avatar? Actually, it’s quite the opposite. She treats Korra as an equal and not just as the Avatar BUT at the same time, she acknowledges and reinforces the Avatar part of Korra BECAUSE that is who Korra is! Remember, being the Avatar is a part of Korra’s identity. It will always be and it will always be such a huge important part of her. Asami acknowledges all aspects of Korra – the friend and the Avatar. To say she only sees Korra as the Avatar and only treats her as such is kind of doing a disservice to Asami as a character. I’m pretty sure as someone who is also burdened with a title and so much responsibility at such a young age and later all through life, Asami would understand how one would be treated by just those things.

        In defense of Asami’s kiss, we have to keep in mind what her state of mind was at the time. At that point, for the first time in awhile, she was emotionally vulnerable and defeated. Out of a moment of weakness, she kissed Mako because she needed comfort. Not only that, but the blame shouldn’t solely be on her for what continued after. I didn’t see Mako complaining when it kept going. I’ll also like to bring up that Korra did this too but it was worse than what Asami did here, because when Korra kissed Mako back in S1, he was still in a relationship. Here, they’re all single and they’re all grown people. They can do whatever they want so I see no problem there. The only reason people get mad at Asami at this point is because they don’t want the love-triangle to be renewed or they’re hardcore Makorra shippers (which is fine if you are, but I do get tired of the misplaced hate and anger (and the frequent demands for her death) at Asami from the majority of hardcore shippers). Speaking of Makorra, that relationship ended at the end of S2 and it ended maturely. It was honestly one of the things Bryke got right for the overall romance up to that point and I know majority of the fandom agreed. Both Mako and Korra acknowledged they don’t work out and that happens! First loves don’t always work and sometimes no matter how much you love each other, it just doesn’t work. It sadly happens. Besides, Makorra as friends after is something that I really appreciate, because to be honest male-female friendships are pretty underrated. I love how despite the mess, they still were able to stay close friends. Mako even said in “Remembrances” how he was able to help save the world with Korra and he did it as friends. His last words to Korra in the series finale was very sweet and touching but not because he’s in love with Korra, but because he’s still making good on what he said in “Remembrances”. About being constantly inspired by Korra and wanting to follow her and watch her back no matter what. If anything, that is pure love there and best part? It’s not romantic love, but pure friendship love. Hayao Miyazaki once said if he could depict pure love like that between a boy and girl, then he’d be satisfied. He said that in response to the idea of a “boy and girl always having to end up romantically with each other”. This is also where Bryke took inspiration, threw their own spin to it, and said how just because 2 people of the same gender are close friends shouldn’t preclude the possibility of romance happening. I honestly have a lot to say about Korrasami, but only if you’d like me to elaborate on how I saw it unfold as I didn’t even start out as a Korrasami shipper nor did I actively look for it.

        Korra’s growth, I wouldn’t say it was redacted, but more of a back and forth. Growth and change does not happen linearly, in my opinion. It’s always a back and forth and we saw that a lot with Korra, most especially in S2 when she’s trying to apply what she’s learned but still quickly resorting to A LOT of old bad habits (which does happen). She won’t be a changed person overnight. Just look at Zuko. How many times have we all been frustrated with that boy whenever he goes back and forth? Whenever he did stupid things or yelled at Iroh? Yep. Don’t even get me started on hormonal teenage angst. We’ve all been there I’m sure. Anyways, Korra in S3 was the point where Korra was at her highest and also where it was her lowest by the end. That was the Korra I loved the most (aside from S4 Korra of course). It was the Korra that was happy, really confident in herself, and really getting there in her growth. Which is why it was so heartbreaking to see her shatter by the end and also why it was so inspiring and heartwarming to see her later come back stronger than ever.

      2. I think your review is a bit too biased on Asami and have some factual errors. Asami OFFERED to go with Korra when she convalesced in the South Pole. She didn’t go because Korra wanted to be alone. Asami being vulnerable doesn’t really excuse her for chasing after Mako in B2. As for Mako’s culpability? He didn’t pursue her to her house as she did to his apartment. Asami had known Mako and Korra for some months before she made the decision to turn on her Father. She did it because she witnessed the dangers and damages of Equalism. She knows it is not that. By this time, she also has grown close to a group of benders as friends and Mako as her boyfriend. She knows that her father is wrong. That is why I said B1 Asami portrayal is the best. Then she has no arc and is only resuscitated to make a couple of fans happy.

        Bryke’s show was failing. It was taken off air. The only way they could win back fans and press is by making KA. In fact, they even torched along with Tumblr a storyboard artist who confessed that Korra and Asami were not holding hands in the original ending that premiered some months ago before the actual airing. So even by the end Bryke were not certain if this ship was canon. They just did it when they saw some group of loud fans for it. Don’t believe it? Bryan changed the concept art of KA statue when people didn’t like that Korra was acting herself and wanted her toned down to suit the pose with Asami. And, Bryan changed the art and final statue. Bryke are VERY EASILY PERSUADED BY FANS IF THEY DON’T HAVE THE NECESSARY VIEWERSHIP. A good example of this is that they always wanted Aang and Katara together and they didn’t change that even when some fans wanted Zutara. Even when Aaron Weiss, the reason TLA was such a hit, knew that was the better relationship. They became arrogant and made fun of Zutara and also Zukaang fans. Yes, they did make fun of a queer ships that fans liked because their show was doing good. If LOK had the same fame and acceptance they would made fun of Korrasami too.

        Bryke wanted Makorra to be canon. They explicitly stated it in B1 DVD commentaries. They said the two for made for each other. This aspect was never changed and was followed through to the entirety of the show. Miyazaki’s statement is just them denying their own bad writing. Miyazaki would call out that Bryke are pretty much liars. Miyazaki’s statement is that he wouldn’t start and end with a romance. Meaning he wouldn’t cheer even for Korrasami. He would have also wanted them to remain as friends. Miyazaki didn’t say make weird love triangles and breakups and then go for the platonic approach. The amount of time and friendship Lin and Chihiro/Sen has in “Spirited Away” and even the significant interactions she has with No Face is enough for people to understand and want and adult Chihiro to have relationships with them. Asami and Korra don’t even have that. My problem is with how Asami is handled and how her personality is written in a shallow way. She is portrayed as only taking interest on people if she romantically pursues them. That is not being kind, gentle and generous. That is being opportunistic. Which, doesn’t fit her B1 portrayal at all. So, no. Even Korra’s development has problems like this. Rather, the show embraces the linearity that you think it doesn’t. It follows a path constrained to each character. Asami the love interest, Korra the hot head and Mako the playboy. I do not accept the characters as this. But the show embraces them.

        The way KA happened can only be believable as fanservice, fanfiction or if Asami was a villain. She was planned to be Equalist Asami and that would have been great to have shaped and changed and integrated into Krew. She doesn’t do that and her contributions to the show are liminal. Bryke doesn’t care about nonbenders as Aaron Weisz did. Weisz had arcs for Sokka, Mai, Ty Lee and Suki, and even many other characters that showed their importance in the Avatar Universe. Bryke reintroduced the status quo that they themselves broke. Korra choosing Kuvira and Mako, as in avatar choosing a bender as a partner is a VERY NEW THING. Almost all married Avatar’s partners were nonbenders or they stayed single. Aang broke that tradition because it is a very reductionist view on the concept of Balance.

        “I’m pretty sure as someone who is also burdened with a title and so much responsibility at such a young age and later all through life, Asami would understand how one would be treated by just those things.” — Asami doesn’t go through the things that Korra does. Rather Asami has more background and shared history with Opal. If Opasami became canon it would make sense. Korra embraced her avatar title and she did not feel burdened by it. She was burdened because she couldn’t be herself and be avatar. So no, Asami telling her that she is the avatar all of the time isn’t just pointing out an aspect of her. It is just how ONLY way Asami knows Korra — as her avatar friend. That is why Mako even in B4 telling Korra “We need you” is one of the most important lines. Mako got what Korra needed was to be herself. He accepts Korra is avatar and he at first isn’t nice to Korra because she is avatar rather he points out her privileges and then he starts accepting her for herself and also as an avatar. It was important that this interaction happen for Korra. And, it continued in all the books.

        This has nothing to do with how I like Makorra because frankly I can like someone/something and constructively critique it. I have trained myself and been trained in the discipline to do this. Asami has a lot of character problems but in my headcanons I always think of her and Korra primilary; Mako is an afterthought that is why it irks me that Bryke relegated and pretty much misogynistically put this character as a stupid angel in the house when she shows signs of not being that. It was important Asami had her own arcs and be the best possible person FOR HERSELF. NOT MAKO. NOT KORRA. NOT ANYONE. The fact is that KA is a horrible ship that even with comic previews is getting worse. I wanted to embrace KA wholeheartedly but in the comics they make the relationship as bad as Masami. It lacks direction, erases history, shames Korra and makes Asami this perfect love instead of actually discussing the many things that Korra and Asami can discuss even as friends. I am not going to accept the way this relationship is going as it reads like bad fanfiction. And Rubyphire and Bubbline are SO WELL WRITTEN QUEER RELATIONSHIPS that KA cannot even stand to compare let alone be original with itself.

      3. Although I love Asami to death, I can be objective and there was no factual errors here. Yes, Asami offered to go with Korra to the South Pole but you’re forgetting that SHE WAS WILLING to drop everything in her life to do so. This is fact. Why? She had a barely recovering business enterprise to take care of YET was willing to possibly leave that and follow Korra halfway across the world if Korra said yes. Again, in my most personal opinion, no regular friend would just do that, no matter how dedicated. This meant dropping your life for who knows how long to go help a friend recover, which could take YEARS (and it did take years). Of course, Korra declined because she thought some alone time was good for her (that and it wouldn’t be “Korra Alone” lol).

        I’m not trying to excuse her actions. I’m merely trying to have you understand why she did what she did. She’s only human and every human has had moments of weakness and vulnerability, especially as a young teen or young adult. Are you telling me you never had moments of weakness where you did something that you later found you shouldn’t have? Because I sure did and judging by how things ended up for Asami later, she also realized how stupid it was of her to chase after Mako like that. At the same time though, I can still understand why she did something like that though. She just lost everything and Mako was the closest thing for her in emotional intimacy and support in that moment. I don’t fault her for chasing after something that stupid, because she’s only human. I also partly agree that S1 Asami is the best UNTIL she was used as a plot device right after to drive Mako and Korra together. S3 Asami is the best to me (actually, S3 everyone with the exception of Bolin was the best …Bolin’s was S4), because she actually shined as an individual character more and her dynamic with Korra helped make her own skills and assets stand out. I already thought Asami was a very good person at heart and a badass back in S1, but in S3? Man, all of that just intensified. Why do you think so many people in the fandom loved S3 and even considered it the best out of all the seasons? Its because everything from story to characters (most especially characters) were more balanced and actually given better screen time and writing.

        “As for Mako’s culpability? He didn’t pursue her to her house as she did to his apartment.”
        I’m sorry, but if you’re going to put the fault on Asami for the renewal of Masami, then you need to put the fault on Mako as well. A relationship is a two way thing just as cheating is a two way thing. Now don’t get me wrong here, I DO admit (despite me understanding at the same time) that Asami was stupid to pursue Mako again because of her emotional vulnerability, but Mako was also stupid to let it continue. I don’t put the blame on him when she all of a sudden kissed him and he didn’t kiss her back in that warehouse, BUT when she came to his apartment and they embraced and kissed, that is when I will also put the fault on Mako as well. He broke up with Korra, it’s been a week, and he could’ve denied Asami but he didn’t. That is fact. Then when the whole love-triangle came back in full with Korra’s return, he basically put himself in that situation again, because he continued his relationship with Asami during Korra’s absence. In the end, everyone in the love-triangle was at fault for how things turned out. Korra destroyed her relationship because of her inability to balance her work and personal life, Mako put himself in a difficult position when it came to the two girls because of his fickle feelings, and Asami got hurt again because she pursued Mako.

        If Asami didn’t have an arc then wouldn’t you say Mako and Bolin didn’t have an arc too? Because aside from Korra, Tenzin, and Lin, those 3 didn’t really have much of an arc all throughout the show. They were just there, so to speak. THOUGH PERSONALLY, I do believe each one of them had their own personal arcs, which I am happy to elaborate more on. To be frank, I felt Asami’s arc was the most subtle out of everyone’s when you really delve into it.

        It wasn’t failing actually. If it was failing then there was no way Nickelodeon was going to order another season after S1 finished. Remember, LOK was originally intended to JUST be a standalone 12-episode miniseries. Nick ordered another season after S1 because LOK had unexpectedly grown in popularity. Then Nick went and screwed a lot of things after which eventually had the show become “Online-exclusive” only (then later brought back to TV and in turn, completely undermining the whole “Online-exclusive” only – this tells me Nick had no idea how to handle LOK as a show). I say screw things up because of a variety of reasons: Last minute ordering of S2 which rushed Bryke and the staff to dish out content (resulting in the messy first half), each season almost having to be self-contained because there was no guarantee of another season after, nonexistent advertising of the show, CONSTANT time slot changes to the point where no one really knew when an episode was airing and lastly, putting it in the “Friday Night Death Slot”. The only reason one would put a show in this slot is to quickly bury it. No one in their right mind would ever put a show in that slot if they weren’t trying to bury it. Its funny actually. For a show that Nick was eager to have and practically begged for, they pretty much sabotaged it at every turn (remember the budget cuts in S4? …while SpongeBob gets all the support). Did you also know that Nick actually halted S1’s production because of Korra’s gender? From that moment on, it was just one thing after another that made it extremely difficult for Bryke and the staff. You know, in one interview, in response to if LOK would ever have a documentary like how ATLA had one, they actually joked about how a LOK documentary would mainly consist of behind the scene drama. Bryke didn’t have to continue LOK but they continued it for us fans and because they wanted to share their creation and what do they get in return? Nick sabotaging them and the show not being able to reach its highest potential.

        “Bryke are VERY EASILY PERSUADED BY FANS IF THEY DON’T HAVE THE NECESSARY VIEWERSHIP.”

        “A good example of this is that they always wanted Aang and Katara together and they didn’t change that even when some fans wanted Zutara.”

        “Even when Aaron Ehasz, the reason TLA was such a hit, knew that was the better relationship”

        Okay. If Bryke were easily persuaded by fans, then why isn’t Zutara canon? Why did they choose to put their foot down on a lot of things in both ATLA and LOK DESPITE what majority of fans may have wanted? Bryke wanted Kataang BECAUSE that was what they decided on after going back and forth between the two. It was what they wanted from the start actually, but Zutara gained popularity and they contemplated it for awhile but eventually chose Kataang because they always had a “soft spot” for it. For this issue specifically (in terms of shipping), they had repeatedly said that “IF you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one SO what we always go back to is writing the story for ourselves first and foremost”. Kataang was what THEY wanted in the end and I see no problem with that. It takes a lot of courage to go against what a lot of fans want and I know A LOT of fans wanted Zutara as endgame. Now as for how they reacted and responded to Zutara fans attacking them by pretty much doing the same thing, I agree that was not professional.

        Just because Aaron is a brilliant writer and contributed so much to the show, he doesn’t get final say. That’s not how it works. Also, I’m tired of so many people constantly giving ALL THE CREDIT to Aaron for ATLA’s overall success when you’re all forgetting so many things here. IF it weren’t for Bryke, ATLA wouldn’t have existed and most importantly, IF it weren’t for the collaboration of amazing writers bouncing ideas around, ATLA wouldn’t have been what it is today. Let’s also not forget the HUGE contribution from the Track team (JEREMY ZUCKERMAN IS LOVE!!) and the Animation team as well. You can’t give all the credit to just one or two people. ATLA was a team effort. ATLA was created by two passionate people and brought to life by a group of even more passionate people. To give all the credit to just one person for the show’s success does a huge disservice to everyone else’s contribution.

        Makorra was indeed canon BUT ONLY for S1 BECAUSE LOK was originally supposed to be a miniseries. Nothing more, nothing less. As soon as additional seasons were given, they changed their minds and why can’t they?? What’s most fun about creating and writing your own thing is changing things up along the way. There’s no rule saying you need to stick with the original plan you started off with. Heck, a lot of shows started off with original plans but along the way, a lot of things gets changed up. Its nothing new. ATLA actually started off different but was changed up along the way as the team fleshed things out. Besides, first loves was pretty much already done back in ATLA. I’m sure they wanted to try something different and when it comes to writing a group of teenagers, I don’t see why not. You know what I find funny? When you really think about it, Korrasami is pretty much Zutara 2.0 and Makorra is Kataang 2.0. Makorra and Kataang is pretty much first loves and the whole “soulmates” thing whereas Korrasami and Zutara is more of “opposites attract”. What’s even funnier is how with Kataang vs Zutara, a lot of people wanted Zutura but they ended up with Kataang and with Korrasami vs Makorra, it was almost reversed THOUGH I’d argue that a lot of people wanted Korrasami just the same.

        When I brought up Miyazaki’s statement, did you also forget how I said Bryke TOOK inspiration from that and threw in their own twist? Just as how Miyazaki said just because a boy and girl are onscreen together, it doesn’t mean it needs to be romantic; Bryke is saying a different version of that but in terms of same-sex relationships. Just because a girl and girl or a boy and boy are friends doesn’t mean it should just be limited to just that. That’s what I was getting at. Asami and Korra doesn’t have that? From rivals over the same guy to friends to close friends to the start of romantic interest in each other? My, I’d say they both come a long way and we clearly saw those changes.

        I already explained her personality in full to you, yet you keep calling her shallow. When Asami turned on her dad and when she stuck with Team Avatar unconditionally afterwards should already tell you a lot about her personality and what kind of person she is. “Portrayed as only taking interest on people if she romantically pursues them” …What? How about Bolin then? How about the other characters?? She took interests in them, but she wasn’t romantically pursuing them. Heck, if she only took interest in those she wants to romantically pursue, then why is she still with Team Avatar?? Because it was in her interest to stay as a member and help out her friends. After what happened with the Equalists and her dad and even S2, she could’ve left all of them to focus on her company and NO ONE would blame her for it. But she stayed. Opportunistic you say? I’m sorry, but Asami is far from being that kind of person. Not like say what Mako did at the end of S1 when he dumped all his feelings on Korra, ignoring how emotionally vulnerable and devastated she was. One would say that was a bit opportunistic of him, most especially when he basically undermined Korra’s feelings in that moment and tried to make things about him and his feelings (“I love you, Korra” “Ugh, I can’t”). I’m sorry if I’m coming off aggressive, but you make Asami out to be some shallow predator when she’s not. And not kind, gentle, and generous you say? Well, I’ll fire back and say she’s kind and forgiving despite what happened with the whole love-triangle, she’s kind and forgiving to her father after being betrayed and shit on like that. She’s gentle with how she handles and approaches serious situations (How she handled the fact Mako cheated on her was pretty mature for someone her age and what I mean by that was she didn’t throw a huge tantrum and get petty about it. She confronted him, said how she felt and left it in his hands. She didn’t even let that fact interfere with the bigger threat at the time) and how unconditionally supportive she is to her friends. She’s generous to those that don’t really deserve it at times, such as offering kindness and forgiveness (like to Korra and Mako for everything they put her through, the same with her dad). Aside from Korra, Asami is the second person to have shit after shit thrown at her. She gives so much and at times, receives so little in return. It’s so laughable at times that people even made memes about Asami’s misery (I’m not joking) …There were even memes about her being the Batman of the Avatar world lol.

        Asami the love interest? Korra the hothead? Mako the playboy? …That is so untrue, especially when you take the show as a WHOLE. If it were just S1 and S2, then I’d agree. In fact, that’s a pretty shallow interpretation of their individual characters if I’m being honest. Asami isn’t just a love interest (you can even argue Korra is also the love interest as well but you didn’t put that for her), she’s also a strong, courageous young CEO and engineer that can hold her own in a fight and will always be there for her loved ones unconditionally EVEN WHEN she doesn’t need to. Korra is far from a hothead by the end and I don’t feel like going into her character development again. Rather, I’ll put it in short: Korra was more like Aang by the end and Aang was no hothead. Mako a playboy? All the romance stopped for him by the end of S2, so I don’t get how he would still be a playboy. Even he admitted he needed to figure out himself outside of romantic entanglements. A playboy certainly doesn’t say something like that.

        Makorra was more of fanservice than anything. It was basically an attempt at Zutara 2.0 and it was heavily forced when it was introduced. Not to mention how the pairing failed as they constantly argued more than they got along as romantic partners. They even argued heatedly during the rescue mission for Prince Wu about who’s fault it was that he was captured in the first place. It almost gave me a headache and even vividly reminded me why I didn’t like the pairing at all. To be honest, Masami was an okay pairing at the start but Makorra just had to be forced in. I actually don’t forgive S1 for throwing Asami under the bus like that. She deserved better and she certainly got it later.

        …That is being burdened by it though! The title “Avatar” has always burdened Korra. It burdens her with expectations! That is the underlying narrative of LOK from beginning to end! Its Korra wrestling with villains repeatedly tearing apart her role and importance. Just look at how upset and emotionally vulnerable she gets whenever she feels like she’s not living up to her predecessors or her title “Avatar” (she even got deeply hurt and offended when Tarrlok called her a half-baked Avatar), when she can’t do her job right, or when she fails horribly. She can be Korra yes, but who is Korra exactly? You can’t answer that without “Avatar” being a part of the answer. The Guru back in ATLA did say that you can’t deny that part of yourself. That is who you are as well. Yes, Mako saying “we need you” is to the Korra part BUT LATER when Korra was doubting herself as the Avatar again and whether or not the world even needs one because of what Toph said, Asami then reaffirmed that she as the Avatar is also needed. If anything, both pretty much reaffirmed all aspects of Korra. Korra as an individual and Korra as the Avatar are needed in this world and to her loved ones. And when I say Asami understands, I mean she understands what it feels like to be held in such high regard at such a young age. To be thrown into a position of power and authority at such a young age. With this, Asami and Korra share the same thing. Korra as the Avatar with so many expectations and the burdens of the world thrown on her. Asami as a young brilliant CEO and engineer with a very widely-known and highly regarded company thrown on her in the face of what her dad left. Like I said, one would expect her to understand the need for normalcy and being seen as an equal.

        How can you judge Korrasami in the comics when Part 1 hasn’t even been released yet? What was shown was as you said, a PREVIEW and only the “fluff” part of it. For all you know, they may even do it justice but you’re already jumping to conclusions about it. Asami not the best possible person for herself is what you’re saying? She’s one of the first characters to reach emotional maturity (with moments of weakness here and there, but that’s realistic). They started her off as that and that was constantly reaffirmed all through the show. I’d say she is the best possible person she is by the end. Korra on the other hand, needed a lot of maturing and by the time she reached the same level as Asami, they were pretty much perfect for each other in terms of balance (I’ll talk more on balance between these two later).

        “Bryke reintroduced the status quo that they themselves broke. Korra choosing Kuvira and Mako, as in avatar choosing a bender as a partner is a VERY NEW THING. Almost all married Avatar’s partners were nonbenders or they stayed single. Aang broke that tradition because it is a very reductionist view on the concept of Balance”

        So because Korra chose to be with a nonbender, its not a new thing and that’s a problem?…So what? Did you want her to choose to be with someone based on their ability to bend or not because it would be a new thing? In a way, it almost felt like you just put down all nonbenders lol. Love doesn’t work like that, ya know? Also, we didn’t see that many Avatars so I don’t see how we can say that almost all of them had nonbenders as partners. Yangchen we knew nothing about. Kuruk had a wife but we don’t know if she was a bender or not but he ended up single because of the Koh the Face Stealer. Kyoshi, she was either single or had multiple lovers (both benders and nonbenders) all throughout her 230 years alive. Roku had a wife but do we know if she’s a bender or not? I don’t know. Aang had Katara and they were both benders. Overall, you can’t really conclude anything from this. Heck, Wan had Raava as a wife and that totally blows all of this out of the water …I’m just kidding though, Raava isn’t his wife. Wan was single …though he could’ve had lovers before dying on that battlefield. We don’t know.

        When I look at Korrasami, all I see is that they’re perfect for each other. They balance each other tremendously. They are basically the definition of opposites attract. They couldn’t be more different from the other but somehow, they get along well and even complement each other very well. If I were to describe Korrasami, I’d actually describe it as hammering home the theme of balance. Korra represents nature and ancient spiritual wisdom where Asami represents modern technological innovation. Korra (as the Avatar) is the champion of the downtrodden, where Asami is wealthy. Korra is sheltered where Asami is wordly. Korra bends every single element where Asami bends none. Between them, they represent every possible viewpoint. We’ve actually seen in the last few episodes that Korra’s spiritual connection is starting to peak (probably intentionally since it was her foil in S1), but the one thing that’s struggling against spirits in this show is technology. And yet, here’s Asami the technology expert, working with Korra. Korra and Asami are polar opposites, almost literally too! Korra comes from the Southern Water Tribe, while Asami is from Republic City whose family heritage goes back to the Fire Nation colonies. Their backgrounds are direct opposites; fire and water, upper class and no class (heh heh). Even appearance and personality is vastly different. Korra is a sporty tomboy with a feminine streak, curious about things like makeup and romance. She’s a live-off-the-land type woman with no table manners and no money. Asami is a prissy rich girl (according to Korra) who is overtly feminine, yet she has a tough side and a handful of “boyish” hobbies. Korra had to fight to save her parents, while Asami has basically lost hers. There’s also the way their strategization and fighting styles play off one another too: Korra is very “shoot first, aim second,” decisive, and at times hot-headed, while Asami is reserved, meticulous, and at times known to hide from her problems (i.e. not visiting her father for 4 years). Korra has a vision for the world, and Asami has the ability to bring it into the material, as was demonstrated by her infrastructure work that married the spirit vines and the modern city. Geographically, culturally, social status-wise, and financially, the two couldn’t be more different. And yet despite every one of those differences, they get along extremely well. Everything Korra doesn’t have, Asami has, and vice versa. If Korra intends to balance a world full of benders and nonbenders, spirituality and technology, she need only turn to Asami.

        Basically, if the writers want Korra to find an emotional and romantic balance, the two couldn’t be more perfect for each other. No one else fills in Korra’s gaps like Asami does. It was as if Asami was scripted to be Korra’s perfect balance; no two characters could possibly be more suited for one another. Which makes the fact that they were originally scripted as “rivals” competing in a love-triangle even more hilarious. This is one of the reasons why the Korrasami ending “felt right” to me. It was thematically cohesive not just with the season, but with everything Bryke had built. Even when there’s conflict between the two women, it showed that even under stress and cases of disagreement, these two never resort to shouting matches or to negating the other’s feelings—something that featured strongly in both of their past relationships. Overall though, it was the quiet moments between them that were the most poignant and what inevitably won me over when the ending scene happened (I basically had an epiphany, to say the least). It was the moments where they’d provided emotional support. It was Asami offering to watch Korra’s body as she meditated into the Spirit World. It was Korra praising Asami to her dad. It was Asami telling Korra that she was there for “anything” she might require. It was Korra suggesting a vacation that Asami dearly needed. ETC. Their entire relationship was just nice. It was based on mutual respect, understanding, and support. There was no single event that made them recognize their feelings for one another, and no plot devices to get them together (*cough* love-triangle *cough*). They developed romantic interest in each other slowly, and without ceremony, because sometimes that’s just what happens. Korra chose to possibly spend the rest of her life with the one person who could balance her like no one else, the one person she felt she could open up to about her emotions, and the one person who was unquestionably there for her at all times. She didn’t need to end up with anyone…she just wanted to. Because that’s what happens. Nothing was forced; nothing overshadowed the narrative. It was just a love happened to grow and develop between two characters who were almost inherently meant for each other.

      4. You are saying you can objective and factually correct but you wrote a long comment pretty much putting Asami on a pedestal and also making assumptions about what I think. That being said, Asami is her own entrepreneur. She has employees working for her and by B3 her company is in a good enough place that she could join Krew looking for Air benders. So no. She didn’t drop anything. She was in a position to make a choice. So she offered and Korra declined. If you state that this is still Asami showing her love I can accept it only half=way. If this was Bolin saying it I would still consider it a show of friendship. Mako saying it would be a bit telling but even then I wouldn’t feel they were getting back without their OTHER B4 interactions. Because then it would be bad story writing and Bryke went with the bad story writing take on things.

        The fact that you believe that Asami is perfect for Korra and she has no character development makes me really question your statements. Asami has shown passive-aggressive anger in the series throughout. She hadn’t matured when she screamed at a PTSD Korra in B4 just because Korra rightfully asks about Hiroshi. I know it can be inferred her also standing up for herself but she knew, Korra wrote to her one letter showing confidence, and she was written to manipulate that confidence screaming at Korra. So Asami didn'[t mature. She has a very thinly veiled contempt for Mako as well in B4 which was not exactly what I expected. It seems Bryke didn’t know what to do with her character.

        Also, you are not critiquing Bryke which is questionable. Love doesn’t work that way? Yeah, there was no way for their love to work. Real life isn’t about opposites attracts. That is fiction. In any real relationship people have similarities and opposites. Many of the opposite stuff you mentioned are also kinda superficial. They work in binaries that I feel is a major critique of queer representation in media in that queerness does look for difference in a way that falls on that SGA will ultimately “create” difference because there was “inherently” none. That is what fetishistic media would like to think. I know that Korra and Asami if they were together should not be treated as such.

        Some of the differences you gave for Korra and Asami being perfect are actually good reasons for them not working out. Even in progress the fact that technology is an enemy for spirits and if Asami thinks like a businesswoman she won’t be eco-friendly completely unless Bryke just want to pander to fans and not be realistic. And yes Roku’s wife is a nonbender or projected as such and so on. In fact, I thought about the series and my responses. Mako doesn’t have culpability in B2 as Asami initiated a kiss and then he broke up with Korra before and she kept on pestering him. I am not gonna erase that. The fandom has so much Mako hate. I can also say he is human and did a mistake but what Asami did was think about herself. Which ultimately is bad writing for her. She isn’t like that. She has the potential to be more.

        The fact is that KA is a rushed relationship. It has nothing going for it aside it is queer. And, that is so narrow minded and fetishistic that I would have just wanted Korra alone. Bryke didn’t think about this relationship till B4. They admitted it and there was no interactions between Korra and Asami to merit it. There was no subtlety; it was nonexistent. They were never even good friends. And, Bolin and Mako also were unquestionably by Korra’s side all the time. I am not gonna forget in B2 Asami was willing to make money for her company via arms deal that even Tony Stark stopped in Marvel Universe. Mako questioning Korra ultimately was good as her mistake then would have caused more damage as she realised later on. Your lover can question you, that’s not a bad thing. Someone who follows you blindly is a sycophant and not a good lover. Not to mention Korra has to tone herself down to make Asami catch up.

        Asami was the pivotal nonbender in the series with the least amount of screentime, character arcs and importance. She is the most underutilised character. So no. I am not gonna be happy that one of my favourite characters, Korra, got together with the 5th wheel on Krew. If Asami had the same treatment as Sokka and Suki I would have been ECSTATIC about Korrasami. But I am not. Hopefully the comics won’t be that bad. And no, I have seen a lot of leaked images of the comics and none of them are that good interactions between KA unless you are an avid fan. Like even if Makorra was like this and it was endgame I would have been pissed. It’s patting itself on its back rather than making two people reach out and work.

        Also, I really don’t think and feel Makorra happened for a love triangle. In canon, Makorra happened way before Masami. Mako can be critiqued for dating Asami but it was clear as day that he was in love with Korra and was her equal. This idea of being her equal was maintained throughout the series. He gave her advice when he needed to, she told him off when he acted cranky, he cautioned her on her bold decisions and she wanted him to stay by her side when she was exploring different aspects of her bending. This was maintained even in B4. So, Mako has a VERY SIGNIFICANT ROLE in Korra’s life both as her friend and her love. It is supported by canon facts and interactions. To say that it was just there for a love triangle plot is to reduce it. It has been around even when Mako and Korra were not in a relationship. Makorra has a lot in the series and it is one of the best relationships in that series.

        You can still like Korrasami. I mean that is your choice. I prefer my own KA headcanons where Asami is a powerful and stable character and not just someone who is so repressed in her own character. I know you really feel that Asami is the best partner for Korra and that her life and the show has shown she is eventually the best person for her but I completely disagree. I feel Asami had no development and the way she is presented now has nothing to offer Korra or Korra has to offer her. It is this thing that bothers me. KA would have good if it was more written and if it got the coverage it deserved but in canon it is pretty slim and canon itself did not really support it. In the end, we have a weak relationship where Korra and Asami cannot even talk about anything besides Mako, erase B1 actual plots and rewrite history but not in a way that makes us forgetful or feel they are rewriting it with a clear personal perspective and then just them kissing (which is nice I wanted them to kiss and hug and show physical love and affection). But, only these things don’t make a relationship.

      5. I’m not trying to put Asami on a pedestal though. Given everything she’s done and shown of her personal character, its obvious what kind of person she is. I wrote a long-ass comment of “putting Asami on a pedestal” to show you who Asami is. Someone I feel you aren’t really seeing. Honestly, I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone genuinely calling Asami shallow and opportunistic when majority of the fandom agrees she’s a sweet, caring, and very forgiving woman shouldering a lot of loss and burdens (that and how the plot honestly screws her over the most aside from Korra lol). And I don’t mean to make assumptions about what you think, I’m merely responding to what you’re saying. If it comes off as me making assumptions, I apologize. I don’t mean to. The last thing I’d ever want to do is jump to conclusions and such.

        Wait, where did I say Asami had no character development? I actually said out of the others, she had the most subtle one. She’s perfect for Korra because by the end everything she is balances out everything that Korra is, and vise versa.

        Now, her yelling at Korra you’d have to take into account her dad and the whole “trust” thing is a pretty sore spot for her at this point. The woman avoided anything related to her dad for 4 years so her talking about this now is pretty serious. Korra has been gone for 3 years and when Asami finally opens up about it, Korra immediately questions if she’s doing the right thing and that was when it dug deep and everything just tumbled out. She snapped and it was understandable. I know Korra was asking out of the goodness of her heart and she did bring up a valid reason why Asami shouldn’t be seeing Hiroshi. Asami snapped because that was something that OF COURSE she considered (we all saw that struggle) but to hear Korra instantly question one of her decisions after not being in her life for so long, slight bitterness just came up and it came boiling to the surface in two quick, yet jarring sentences. Its the same if say a loved one of yours disappeared for several years only to come back and immediately question what the hell you were doing with your life when you opened up. Anyone would understandably lash out in defense. That and I’m pretty sure Asami was also hurt that Korra was gone that long without reaching out to her or the others. Even Mako was hurt that Korra didn’t try writing to him or Bolin. There was just a lot of emotional hurt they all needed to get out of the way first. Its not like Korra can just come back and act like everything was normal again. Its like what Asami said at the end of the Reunion episode, they just needed a slight adjustment period to finally be okay again. Manipulate? …Seriously now? Where is this manipulative, shallow, and opportunistic Asami coming from? I honestly feel like we’re not even watching the same show. And thinly veiled contempt for Mako? LOL WHEN?? If anything, they’re both still the same as they’ve always been – good friends. They were even joking with each other at the beginning of S4! Unless you meant when she got a bit mad at Mako for Wu tagging along? Or when she shut him down during the car chase? If so, I don’t blame her because Wu at the time was annoying and he was intruding on their reunion AND she did know the city better than Mako. The new infrastructure was her work.

        I do in fact critique Bryke’s writing a lot. I even admitted I acknowledged some bad writing earlier (i.e. Asami used as a plot device, Makorra heavily forced, love-triangle, messy first half of S2, not a lot of screen time for other characters, etc). I love LOK to death the same way I love ATLA, but I’m not blind to the flaws it has. All I said is that not all first loves work and no matter how much you love each other, it sometimes just doesn’t work. Just because you think two people were made for each other doesn’t always mean they’ll be right for each other in the end, ya know? That was what I was getting at. I also do understand real life relationships and people having similarities and opposites. I’m just saying I understand why Mako and Korra didn’t work out here, that’s all.

        “Even in progress the fact that technology is an enemy for spirits and if Asami thinks like a businesswoman she won’t be eco-friendly completely unless Bryke just want to pander to fans and not be realistic”

        Asami’s infrastructure work basically said it all though. Businesswoman or not, she was able to unite and incorporate the spirit vines into Republic City without sacrificing the spirit vines themselves. Please don’t forget who Asami is. Like Varrick, Bataar Jr., and her dad, she is also an innovator and she’s brilliant at that. Her infrastructure work is a testament to how balanced she can be and only a brilliant person could find a way to create and balance at the same time.

        “Mako doesn’t have culpability in B2 as Asami initiated a kiss and then he broke up with Korra before and she kept on pestering him. I am not gonna erase that. The fandom has so much Mako hate. I can also say he is human and did a mistake but what Asami did was think about herself. Which ultimately is bad writing for her. She isn’t like that. She has the potential to be more.”

        That’s not how it works though!! LIKE I SAID, he could’ve denied Asami after that but he didn’t and for that, he is held responsible! When she went to his apartment, Mako had the chance RIGHT THEN AND THERE to stop it. Its not like he had no choice or Asami put a gun to his head and told him to date her again. NO! He had a choice!! I’m not bashing Mako but I will place fault where it is also due. But again, I didn’t say it was largely Mako’s fault, it was ALL their fault for the hurt and end result in the end. Mako is human yes! But Asami is also human too! Out of a moment of weakness and vulnerability, she kissed Mako because she wanted emotional intimacy and support. Its NOT bad writing as you keep saying, its realistic human behavior to seek warmth and comfort in the face of loss and devastation! (If not warmth and comfort in another person, then it probably be warmth and comfort in food, drugs, or alcohol) Asami just lost everything in that moment. You keep saying Mako is human and he made a mistake, BUT why isn’t that applied to Asami too? Objectively, that’s pretty unfair. What Asami did was think about herself? You’re really going to grill her on that one moment she screwed up and even later understood she screwed up? Everyone on this show has had moments of selfishness and “thinking about themselves”. How about when Mako and even Korra did something similar as well?? Korra kissed Mako when he was STILL in a relationship back in S1 and that was entirely selfish and thinking of herself. I’d even say that was far worse than what Asami did here because she not only made Mako cheat on Asami, but she also broke Bolin’s heart in the process – talk about a complete disregard for his feelings even though she knew how Bolin felt. Mako emotionally cheating on Asami with Korra, not talking things fully through with Asami before ditching her for Korra. Mako dumping his feelings on an emotionally vulnerable Korra and completely undermining her feelings in the S1 finale was also selfish and thinking of himself. Why not bring up these moments as well if we’re trying to be objective and fair? My point is, Asami is just as human as Korra and Mako and is prone to these moments of selfishness and stupidity too. If anything, this also proves she isn’t perfect. Nothing about Asami is perfect except for her hair.

        “I am not gonna forget in B2 Asami was willing to make money for her company via arms deal that even Tony Stark stopped in Marvel Universe”

        You get that she was desperate, right? Her company, the last thing in the Sato family aside from her criminal dad, was quickly sinking and out of desperation, she did something stupid. Desperate people do stupid things without thinking things through and Varrick played her because of it. Tony Stark did worse and he learned from it as well, why isn’t this applied to Asami as well? She only did this once and never again. So I don’t see why you’re so harsh on her for it. If anything, this yet again proves how not perfect Asami is if she was able to be emotionally manipulated and taken advantage of like that by an actual businessman that only cares about profits.

        I don’t want to assume again, but are you implying Asami is just some blind follower and as a result, not a good lover? Well, she must also not be a good friend then seeing as she’s unconditionally (and even blindly) committed to the Team even though she could’ve left focused solely on her company. Korra has to tone herself down to make Asami catch up? What do you mean by that? Korra never once toned herself down for anyone. If she comes off toned down to you, that’s probably because she’s a lot more emotionally mature and doesn’t want to deal with things hotheadedly anymore. By S4, Korra and Asami are pretty much on equal levels when it comes to emotional maturity. The same goes with Mako and Bolin(ish …he’s getting there) too.

        Asami may have had less screen time, but she still contributed a lot of noteworthy things overall. Her turning on her dad, her providing the necessary transportation and resources for the team, her piloting the fighter plane when trying to clear a path for the others to the Northern portal, her helping Korra take down the raiders after the Queen’s gold, her freeing Korra and getting Korra and the EK airship crew out of that desert, her rebuilding her company from the ground up that enabled a lot more technological advancements later on, her infrastructure work and rail system, her creation of the wingsuits for the Air Nation (confirmed by Bryke), her reconciling with her dad that inevitably helped in taking down Kuvira, her hummingbird suits she came up with (according to Varrick) to get the team inside Kuvira’s giant mech, etc. There’s no denying how much Asami contributed to both the team and the Avatar world.

        “Also, I really don’t think and feel Makorra happened for a love triangle. In canon, Makorra happened way before Masami. Mako can be critiqued for dating Asami but it was clear as day that he was in love with Korra and was her equal.”

        Makorra happened way before Masami? Not according to what ACTUALLY happened onscreen. Sure, you had them unknowingly staring at each other across that bay BUT AFTER THAT, it was just a one-sided thing on Korra’s part. Korra’s feelings for Mako were so obvious but on Mako’s part, there was nothing! Then he started dating Asami and if he really did love Korra, then why on earth did he start dating Asami? That makes no sense (And please don’t give me that whole “A pretty chick asked him out, who was he to deny that?” because every time someone uses that to justify his dating Asami over Korra, it just makes Mako look shallow when he’s not). Makorra didn’t happen until Episode 5 of S1 and it was all of a sudden shoved down our throats. Before that episode, Mako showed no romantic interest in Korra whatsoever. I also didn’t say it happened for a love triangle. I didn’t even expect there to even be a love triangle because again, if Mako was indeed in love with Korra, then a love triangle wouldn’t even have existed. Just because Makorra was kind of obvious, doesn’t mean the execution was well-done. Why on earth do you think Makorra was the single pairing to be hated on so vehemently during S1 and S2? A lot of people in the fandom felt it was forced, the constant arguing was irritating, and it took focus away from the plot, which it did seeing as Episode 5 was all pure romance and trying to slap Makorra in our face. Have you seen those memes or gifs making fun of that? How Makorra>>>Plot? Because there were a lot of those back when Makorra was still an actual thing. The whole love-triangle and romance aspect during S1 and S2 were hated on and that was why Bryke sidelined the romances later. You said earlier that I don’t critique Bryke’s work, but when it comes to this specifically, you’ll see me harshly criticizing it because if its one thing I hated the most in LOK, it was the love-triangle and Makorra forcibly thrown at us after Masami became a thing. If Makorra was better written and developed, I’d have no complaints. Even if I don’t ship them and they became the endgame couple – I’d have no complaints. I’ve seen better and more well-written relationships than this and Makorra is not one of them.

        I know I can’t change your mind on Korrasami, that’s fine and that wasn’t even the point. I just wanted to share my two cents on my view of Korrasami, because when I watched LOK, I could’ve cared less for the romance. The whole love-triangle and Makorra (specifically in S2) just turned me off from it. Korrasami though, that was the only one I saw coming even though I wasn’t even a shipper or actively searching for it. Or even when people kept saying it wasn’t going to happen.

      6. “Asami may have had less screen time, but she still contributed a lot of noteworthy things overall. ” — this pretty much proves my point. It contradicts everything you have said until now. Asami did nothing in the series. None of her actions were vital. I can guarantee you that if I remove Asami from the series than the series will be the same aside no love triangle and no Korrasami. If I remove Mako, Bolin, Jinora or even Eska and Desna it would put significant changes and losses to the story.

        Fandom just hated Mako in S1 and S2 because of Bryke’s stupid love triangle and because they thought he was a cheat which he wasn’t. Also, Makorra wasn’t forced. It was there before Masami. And, no, stop I don’t think he only went out with Asami because she was pretty and that is a stupid reason and unlike Mako. He went out with her because like Korra he was insecure and didn’t know what to do aside date someone who was being nice to him. That was his inexperience and his hardships speaking. But from the very beginning he liked Korra. He didn’t ask her out but neither did Korra until much later. The storyline of B1 happens over a year and that is enough time if you are constantly interacting with someone to realise you may love them and/or have some deep attraction and feelings for them and then Makorra was canon for 6 months including B2.

        This is not about shipping. The reason Makorra fit in the story was because it continued alongside with the plot and gave both of the characters meaning. KA is a last minute mash up and it has nothing to do withe character development and/or plot progression. It is a very badly written ship and it wouldn’t have been of Bryke paid attention to it since B2. Asami is not a great character and she won’t be because Bryke didn’t make her a character. Just being nice and “helpful” by ersatz methods doesn’t build personality or character. Most of the fandom also compared her to a plank of wood saying plank of wood is better character than her. Only Asami stans and KA fandom say absolutely positive things about Asami and even then they put Korra down. I been around enough since the initial finale problems to know that. Also even some KA fans are angry that Korra was put down to make Asami be accommodated with her. Asami doesn’t balance Korra out she is a nobody character who has no character to balance Korra out.

        “not being in her life for so long,” You keep on making contradictory statements. You keep on saying distance makes the heart grow fonder and then that. No. What Asami did was wrong. She yelled at Korra who is a PTSD survivor. And Korra had to apologise to Asami for being away for 3 years? Why? She was completely in wheelchair. Asami should apologise again for yelling at Korra. Yeah, it can be a sore spot but Asami knew that Korra was struggling big time and she should have acted better because Korra confided in her, her helplessness. What she did was toxic. Mako was sad at Korra but he didn’t yell at her for not contacting him. And if he said anything Korra was allowed space to yell back. When Asami yell at her, see her reaction, she feels cornered and nervous. Asami doesn’t even give that space to Korra. How is she a good partner? Her interactions with Korra are horribly limited.

        Asami was a badly written and completely censored character. It is actually really bad writing that KA became canon the way it did. She did wrong things and desperation isn’t going to cover the fact she was akin to becoming a war criminal. I don’t like making excuses all the time for character’s bad behaviour. I can blame Mako for dating Asami in B1, Korra for trashing his office and biting off his head in B2 and I can blame Tenzin for being a bit selfish so I am not gonna overlook what Asami does. Mako and she are still not great friends in B4. Asami keeps a distance from him and it’s apparent. Also the show made Asami shallow in the sense that she only pursues people when she is romantically interested in them. This is bad writing and completely overturns all the other so-called qualities that you claim Asami has. Asami was liminally written. I can replace most of her scenes in canon even comics with another character. Even in Turf Wars I can replace Asami with Kuvira and Mako and write a better story. It would be more interesting and would play out better. It would not only be a vacation: it would be two people get much needed healing.

        And that vacation idea on Asami’s whim was one of the worst things. Many people complained about it. It felt unnatural even for Asami to suddenly go on a vacation after her father died and as you keep on saying her company having problems. So, yes. The show is never consistent or even developing her character. Asami is the character or even lesser what she was in B1 in B4. I am extremely disappointed with how she was handled and how people received her. This is completely a reductionism on her character and who she could have been.

      7. “It contradicts everything you have said until now. Asami did nothing in the series. None of her actions were vital. I can guarantee you that if I remove Asami from the series than the series will be the same aside no love triangle and no Korrasami. If I remove Mako, Bolin, Jinora or even Eska and Desna it would put significant changes and losses to the story.”

        Just wow. Contradictions? What contradictions? I contradicted nothing! How on earth did I contradict anything when I based everything I know of Asami on the show itself and even in the fucking LOK artbooks which were written by Bryke and the other writers? Did nothing in the series?! None of her actions were vital?! Now this is just pure denial. Did you read anything I listed in that list?? Because all the things I listed were SOME pretty MAJOR events and moments of the overall show that there was NO WAY IN HELL you can say if you were to remove Asami, everything will still be the same. No way! A lot of things in these events and moments would have to drastically change as a result. Do I have to spell all of her important moments out for you to understand that if you were to remove her, things would drastically change? You’d actually have to change up certain character backgrounds and skill-sets or even create new characters just to fill in her role for these moments and events. Based on the characters already established on the show ONLY, no one else would’ve filled her role in each of these.

        >Her turning on her dad!Her providing the necessary transportation and resources for the team!Her piloting the fighter plane when trying to clear a path for the others to the Northern portal as well as coming up with the plan of attack in the first place!Her freeing Korra and getting Korra and the EK airship crew out of that desert!Her rebuilding her company from the ground up that enabled a lot more technological advancements later on!Her infrastructure work and rail system!Her creation of the wingsuits for the Air Nation (confirmed by Bryke)!Her reconciling with her dad that inevitably helped in taking down Kuvira!Her hummingbird suits she came up with (according to Varrick) to get the team inside Kuvira’s giant mech!< Do I really need to elaborate more on this? The one above pretty much explained this part as well.

        So there. Again, there’s no denying how much Asami contributed to both the team and the Avatar world. Or are you still willing to say without Asami, a lot of things would still turn out the same? Because that is highly doubtful. At least not unless you change a lot of ALREADY established things in LOK. You don't have to like Asami, you can even hate her, but don't ignore the facts I'm showing you here. You say her contributions were not vital, but can you really say that without sounding completely bias against her. If anything, I still don't understand how you can see no value whatsoever to her after I listed everything beforehand. Did you just skim over it or not read it at all?

        "Fandom just hated Mako in S1 and S2 because of Bryke’s stupid love triangle and because they thought he was a cheat which he wasn’t."

        The first part I get, because it was in fact Bryke's love triangle that made a lot of people hate Mako (and Korra as well as Asami). The second part? Now that I'm complete disagreement. Excuse my language, but are you fucking serious? Korra may have initiated the first kiss but Mako kissed her back (as confirmed by Korra). What's worse is that aside from physically cheating on Asami, Mako was pretty much emotionally cheating on Asami after that as well and that is far worse than any physical cheating can do. Here is where Mako should've just broken up with Asami instead of stringing her along like that ONLY to ditch her when they both haven't fully talked things through because of his stubbornness. Even when Asami confronted Mako and just wanted the fucking truth from his mouth, he just tried to put it off by bringing Bolin into it. I would've initially disliked Mako a lot less in S1 had he just been honest with Asami in that moment, but he wasn't. Bad enough that Asami had her father lying to her like that, how'd you think she felt when her own boyfriend was lying to her about something like this too? Asami already was going to have trust issues at this point because of her dad, this made it even worse. Which is why I'm surprised at how forgiving she was after all of it.

        "Also, Makorra wasn’t forced. It was there before Masami."

        AGAIN, JUST because it was supposed to be "obvious and there" doesn't mean it wasn't poorly executed! AND AGAIN, it was not in fact there first. If it was, then WHY WAS IT ONLY ONE-SIDED?? I'm going by facts and what happened ONSCREEN with both characters first! Truth of the matter is Mako and Asami happened FIRST! Mako and Asami BOTH took a mutual interest in each other and mutually dated!! On the other hand, Mako didn't show any romantic interest or behavior towards Korra until AFTER he started dating Asami AND WHEN Episode 5 aired. Korra was the ONLY one to show any romantic behavior towards Mako. HENCE ONE-SIDED!! Its so ironic how you say Korrasami is forced but you can't even acknowledge how forced Makorra really was. If it wasn't, then what the hell was the whole angry uproar all about all throughout S1 and S2 when it came to Makorra? You can't erase that! That's like saying Zutara was there before Kataang but there's no substantial evidence of them ever showing feelings towards the other in comparison to Kataang, with which both Katara and Aang has showed MORE than friendly feelings towards the other on multiple occasions.

        "And, no, stop I don’t think he only went out with Asami because she was pretty and that is a stupid reason and unlike Mako."

        Well, okay then! You're not one of the many to use that excuse.

        "He went out with her because like Korra he was insecure and didn’t know what to do aside date someone who was being nice to him. That was his inexperience and his hardships speaking."

        ….And never mind! I don't know if you're blind or not, but Mako was not insecure nor hesitant in wanting to date Asami when she asked him out. THEN Episode 5 happened and all of a sudden "I'm in love with Korra. Fuck Asami, I want Korra". You say badly written ship for Korrasami when that was exactly what Makorra was. Again, just look to the fandom. You also keep saying this isn't about shipping when it looks exactly like that. You're not acknowledging how forced, rushed, and badly written Makorra started off as and how it was basically a disaster the entire duration of their relationship. You said before that I was biased towards Asami or how I don't critique Bryke's writing but even I admitted when Asami was doing something stupid at times and that Bryke's writing is not flawless. Yet here you are, not acknowledging when Mako is even at fault or even partially at fault nor are you acknowledging when bad writing is bad writing. Is that not hypocritical? I love all the characters in LOK and despite how aggressive I've been towards Mako, I'm not going to back down and I'm going to put blame where it is rightfully due. I didn't even say Mako was entirely at fault for the outcome of the whole love-triangle in S2. Everyone played a part in getting hurt in the end, but in S1, the fault was largely on Mako and Korra. Asami was blissfully unaware of anything until Bolin told her and that was when she was rightfully justified in being peeved at Mako and confronting him. I'm not going to defend a cheater and a homewrecker (Korra …even though she's top favorite character ever!).

        Asami is in fact a great character, or as equal in greatness as both Mako and Bolin. You're just not acknowledging it despite the overwhelming factual evidence I've used from the show. What even saddens me is how you're still grossly misinterpreting Asami as a character and as a person that its not even funny anymore. In fact, its doing such a huge disservice to her character overall.

        "Only Asami stans and KA fandom say absolutely positive things about Asami and even then they put Korra down. I been around enough since the initial finale problems to know that. Also even some KA fans are angry that Korra was put down to make Asami be accommodated with her. Asami doesn’t balance Korra out she is a nobody character who has no character to balance Korra out."

        Positive things about Asami BECAUSE she's a fuckin' sweetheart! That is fact!! Put down Korra? That's still hilarious. Korra grew the fuck up and matured but okay, she was put down just for Asami. Sure. That still makes no sense at all. Asami has already reached emotional maturity before Korra, Mako, and Bolin so why on earth does Korra need to be put down to make Asami be accomodated? If anything, she needed to grow and mature to have reached the same level as Asami and that is exactly the type of person Korra ended up as by the end. She was basically Aang by the end! Do I have to keep saying that? She was more levelheaded, calm, mature, and wanting to actually try diplomacy instead of using her fists all the time. AANG!! Her spirituality also peaked by the end of S4 and that overall was a testament to her overall emotional and spiritual maturity. This is exactly why this whole "put down" thing is bullshit. And there you go again, calling her a nobody character. You obviously did not pay attention to her on the show nor do you care enough to try. Even though I've debated with many people about this, despite not really liking or even finding Asami interesting, they all still acknowledged everything I've said because its the truth. Asami is not this nobody, shallow, manipulative, opportunistic person you keep making her out to be. At this point, I'm even starting to feel you just blindly hate Asami without actually taking in what I'm saying and presenting to you from the show.

        Don't put words into my mouth. I never said distance makes the heart grow fonder. I only ever explained why exactly Asami lashed out at Korra like that and it was understandable given the CONTEXT of her life at the moment. You're not taking into account the entire CONTEXT of what Asami's been through to have her yell at Korra like that. And LOL now its a crime to yell at a PTSD survivor despite the fact said person lied about where she was after leaving the South Pole, which worried every single one of her loved ones. God forbid, loved ones can't feel hurt for something like that nor call them out. As a PTSD survivor myself, I take offense to this. Just because we suffered horrible shit doesn't mean my loved ones can't call me out on my bullshit when it's needed. "You don't get to disappear for three years and then act like you know what's best for me!" Asami knew what Korra was going through and honestly, she did not need to go through it alone but Korra chose to and she disappeared from her friend's life for so long with no contact (save for ONE letter). Did you not think it worried her and the others tremendously when they found out from Tonraq, her father, that Korra was supposed to be in RC but she wasn't? Korra almost died and then she basically disappeared for an extended period of time after leaving the South Pole. Of course everyone was going to feel hurt and worried and even angry from that. For Asami, it was that and so many other things spiraling in her that finally made her snap. She rarely snaps so excuse her for her a moment where she just lets it out. A good relationship is putting bare all your feelings and communicating with each other. Too bad Wu interrupted their argument, because I'm sure Korra would've had space and time to say what she needed to say. Notice how Asami didn't say anything while Korra was STARTING to explain herself better UNTIL Wu interrupted them. This is why he's annoying.

        "Yeah, it can be a sore spot but Asami knew that Korra was struggling big time and she should have acted better because Korra confided in her, her helplessness"

        Should've, would've, could've. Man, when it comes to Asami, you keep saying she should've done this better or should not have done this and so on. And here I'm thinking, you SHOULD really understand why Asami acted this way by now! She was ALSO hurt too! Do you not get that? And not just because her friend worried her and the others so much, but also because she was still hurt about her father. That was still a freshly open wound when she visited him. Yes, Asami could've acted better but didn't you say before how Mako was human? Well, Asami was pretty human here when she lashed out in defense and out of hurt as well. Even Mako sounded a bit bitter and upset when he found out Korra didn't try writing to him nor Bolin. Again, in any relationship, whether platonic or romantic communication is key. You can't just have one person confide this and that and not expect how the other person in the relationship may feel as well. That's not how a relationship works. Yes, listening is good but also talking and sharing your own pains and issues with each other is also good. Did you want Asami to just tiptoe around the issue when Korra's kind of acting like she can just return back after worrying everyone and expect things to go back to normal? If that were me, I'd be sorely disappointed in myself for expecting things to be the same and for everyone to just be okay with it despite how much worry and stress I put them through. Don't get me wrong, I also understand what Korra was dealing with and why she did what she did but objectively, you also need to take into account the other side as well. You need to take into account their feelings too, not just Korra.

        "When Asami yell at her, see her reaction, she feels cornered and nervous. Asami doesn’t even give that space to Korra. How is she a good partner? Her interactions with Korra are horribly limited."

        Again, Korra was actually starting to explain herself better when this argument was cut short by Wu. This is also why Korra brings this up again in the finale even when Asami said it wasn't her fault (most likely because she realized by then that Korra was just genuinely concerned for her when she immediately questioned her visitations with her dad – this can also be shown with how she gets along with Korra just fine and is still in sync with her after said argument back in that episode).

        You say description? No, it is fact! Factual evidence from the show and even from the damn Korra artbooks where the writers all reaffirm each character.

        "The show made Asami shallow in the sense that she only pursues people when she is romantically interested in them"

        This again? I already addressed this earlier! If this is true, why is she still on Team Avatar? She didn't just PURSUE people when it involved romance! She also PURSUED people for friendships as well. If not, then why the hell is she still with Team Avatar? Because she's personally investing with them and cares for them. If anything is shallow, its this false fact of Asami.

        "And that vacation idea on Asami’s whim was one of the worst things. Many people complained about it. It felt unnatural even for Asami to suddenly go on a vacation after her father died and as you keep on saying her company having problems."

        Wow, you're taking everything so literally. Go back and listen to how she "suggests this vacation idea on a whim". You can tell she was pretty much joking when she said that. The way she said that was more like "Ahaha a vacation sounds good right about now *sighs*". It was in a jokey manner. BESIDES IT WAS ACTUALLY KORRA that suggested that they actually do go on this vacation. In response, Asami even surprisingly asked "Really?" Also, did you not notice there was a timeskip between the time Kuvira was taken away in handcuffs and the wedding ceremony? Its not like Asami just suddenly decided to go on a vacation with Korra RIGHT AFTER her dad died. No, there was a timeskip. This even happened in ATLA as well! Aang, Sokka, Toph, and Suki were at the edge of the Earth Kingdom then all of a sudden they were all at the Fire Nation Palace for the ceremony THEN they ended up in Ba Sing Se at Iroh's tea shop. Timeskips all throughout. The same thing happened here, so for all we know, it could've been weeks since the battle. I mean, it takes time to prepare a wedding and such. There was also a timeskip between the time Korra and Asami agreed to the vacation and them both ending up in front of the new spirit portal across the bay, so its also not like they left without telling anyone. And man, give them a break! Actually, cut Asami some slack! Woman's been through enough and you just want to constantly put her down whenever she wants to do something.

        I'm sorry, but again, Asami is not who you make her out to be and at this point, I'm extremely frustrated at how far off you're with her character. Its one thing to not like a character, but to deny what kind of person she really is despite the amount of factual evidence from the show itself…I don't know what else to say. To be frank, I'm very used to defending Korra as a character, but never in my life since I've watched LOK, have I ever had to vehemently defend Asami and rebuff these lies about her.

      8. The fact the fandom is gender normative and pretty narrow minded is the reason why you don’t hear valid criticism about Asami and see people calling her a sweetheart. People from B1 have slammed on Korra and Mako repeatedly (they are still doing that in the comics). People had said that Korra is not the ideal role model for girls and that Asami should be the main protagonist of the show aka avatar. These sentiments are the reasons why Makorra is also hated predominantly. To see a strong female character have a strong partner is something people in mainstream culture hate. Even if Mako was female and Asami was male I would still consider Mako the better relationship. In fact, this is portrayed in Korvira and people hate even the mention of that because they don’t like seeing Korra with her spiritual, visceral, physical and emotional equal.

        I am going to keep on saying this so even if you are frustrated and feel you are doing a lot to show Asami’s importance when I have seen the series and know enough to understand she is not. Your use of F-bombs isn’t also going to justify it. I am not putting words in your mouth you did say in an earlier comment that Asami and Korra realised their feelings for each other as they grew distant. This is reiterated in a comic segment as well. In fact, Asami says to Korra that she didn’t tell Korra her feelings then. And when Korra asks why she states she was afraid that Korra wouldn’t come back. She did exactly the same thing Mako did in B2, not telling Korra that they broke up. Only, Asami had no peer pressure and Mako did. And, people don’t find this problematic? That Asami can be selfish about her feelings and not be critiqued but Mako can be? If we want to look at equality this is a good point of reference. People just enjoy hating on Mako. There has even been fanfiction where he molests Korra and Asami when NOTHING in his character shows this. So, yes, fandom is biased that is why you don’t see Asami hate.

        Okay breakdown:

        * Book 1 — Asami is important for Masami and a way to expose Hiroshi’s dubiousness. This was important. Other than that what? She funds for the team. Okay, replace Asami with another dude. A fan who does this and you pretty much have the same thing aside love triangle. Now, in B1 Asami also fights against her father that is important so that is why I said B1 Asami is the best. But other than that she doesn’t do much aside yell at Mako for being disloyal to her.

        * Book 2 – The plan sequence? Iroh II could have done it. Other than that zilch. Oh yeah aside love triangle.

        * Book 3 — Aside laughing at Mako together and that Korra moment? Nothing. That desert scene Zhu Li or someone else could have done that. Watching over her meditating Mako could have done that and helped her fight of Queen’s Raiders as he has done also in B1 with Equalists. Bolin and Jinora could be involved so Nada.

        *Book 4 — Aside Korrasami. Nada. Nothing. Asami’s plot with Hiroshi is nothing. Korra goes to visit Zaheer with Mako. Korra tries to help people escape Spirit Vines with Mako. When she is at her lowest and doesn’t want to be told she is just an avatar Asami just reminds she is important because she is the avatar. She could have said more but doesn’t because of bad writing. Mako tells her “We need you” that makes Korra happy. Tenzin reminds her that she is their friend and family. That is important. So, no. Asami doesn’t do anything that is that important. She could have but Bryke doesn’t give her that opportunity.

        About the vacation it wasn’t a joke. Asami sounded she desperately needed it. The frame shifted to Asami’s needs and not someone who is suffering from PTSD aka Korra. That was bad. Even if Mako was there I would say no, just wrong. That is why Mako or Kuvira with Korra in the spirit world for healing, for understanding all that they went through made better sense. And then we could see oh it is also a vacation and spiritual retreat. It would be cohesive with canon and would make us feel all the characters have gotten what they wanted and needed.

        You yourself said Asami had less screen time. Why should she? In B1 website Asami did not even have her own character page. She was an afterthought by Bryke and they treated her as such throughout the narrative. They didn’t strengthen her character or give her resolves. She doesn’t have a shouting match with Korra because Bryke thought her irrelevant. Therein also lies the unrealism. She doesn’t even show some disdain for Korra initially. Even Ty Lee and Azula had problems and Ty Lee is a sweetheart. This is very bad written.

        KA is a badly written ship. You have also not responded to many other things I have said on account on why Zutara is not canon and what happened. Makorra wasn’t forced. It was canon for over a year and Mako helped Korra during the times she needed it the most. As Marilyn Monroe wold say “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” Asami never handled Korra at her worst. She didn’t take Korra’s anger or indecisiveness or desperation. She knew Korra from a distance. And, continues in this distance. It shouldn’t be like this but the writing is going in this direction. It can be loads better but it’s not.

        I like Asami as a character and wanted more from her. She was supposed to be the integral nonbender in the group but those positions were later given Su Beifong’s family and Zhu Li and Varrick. It is goes without saying that Bryke thought less about Asami in their narrative as a whole. We can give them excuses on LOK going to be just a mini series but that’s the thing. They should have tried more and had the resources to do more but didn’t. They just wanted to stay in their lane and not expand so that is why the series did poorly even though Korra as a character was one of the awesomest things ever. It’s a shame they later just toned her down, made her depressed without resolve and not stick to her curious and fierce nature and just made her some “soulmate” to Asami. Oh yeah they did tone her down. Korra says “I needed to suffer to learn compassion” do you realise what a misogynistic and problematic statement that is? It is one of the worst statements in the entire show. So, no. LOK has problems, so does Korrasami and so does Asami.

      9. “This is exactly a problematic statement. Why does she need to be in the same level of Asami? The show is Legend of Korra not Legend of Asami and not Legend of Korrasami.”

        Okay, I should’ve probably explained myself better. Korra doesn’t NEED to be on the same level as Asami BUT by the end, she WAS on the same level as Asami. Hmm actually no she was probably even a little past Asami in emotional maturity after everything she’s had to deal with. My point is Korra wasn’t “put down” for anyone. She grew and matured on her own (independent of everyone else) after all the hardship and suffering and by the end, when she ended up with Asami, it was definitely a good relationship IN THE MAKING because of how matured both were at this point in their lives.

        “No Asami is portrayed shallow-like. It is not her it is the writing.”

        Shallow-like? Shallow is defined as “lack of depth” or “someone who is concerned only about silly or inconsequential things”, no? All of this doesn’t apply to Asami, especially with the latter. The former “lack of depth”? Well, couldn’t you apply the same to both Mako and Bolin, because out of everyone, they both weren’t that deeply written as well. You could even say that in the end, they were just there. How were they any different from Asami then, right? Mako after getting rid of all romantic entanglements, what kind of person was he? He was just an awkward, brooding detective who was just there and… that’s it. Later, he became a bodyguard to guard Prince Wu. Other than later reconnecting with his family in S3 (which was touching), that’s it to Mako. We never really got to know who Mako was personally or more in-depth other than he wasn’t good with dealing with romances and that he’s a very good detective. If anything, Mako really falls more flat as a character. As for Bolin, he really didn’t shine until S4 when he was put in more emotionally compromising positions that made him go back and forth in his growth. Before that, he was basically the “comic relief” guy that’s there to add overexaggeration and that’s it. His personality is also pretty shallow (i.e. when he was with Varrick in S2, he acted pretty shallowly) too until around middle-ish S3 (thanks to Opal telling him she didn’t like how he was treating her) and start of S4.

        “Yeah, but you wouldn’t want people to yell at you unceremoniously. Another PTSD survivor told me that scene made them cringe. And rightfully so. It wasn’t a well written scene. And Korra’s PTSD is muted. She didn’t grow up or resolve things. Mental health doesn’t happen this way. We both know that.”

        Being yelled at unjustifiably is wrong, but when Asami snapped at Korra that one time, there was also justification behind her words. Remember what I said about how Korra worried every single one of her loved ones when she left the South to come back to RC? What you’re going through may be understandable but it doesn’t mean you get to just come back and act like everything is A-OK when you had everyone worried to death, ya know? Now, granted, Korra was most likely trying to bring normalcy back to her life and with her friends, hence why she acted like this. I can understand that, but her friends? It may take some time and by the end of the reunion, they were all good. They just need to readjust to each other again and get all the hurt and much out of the way.

        Also “muted”? No, I completely disagree! I actually already went into GREAT DEPTH here (***go see my very first comment about it when I went into great depth with Korra’s overall character development***) about how Korra’s PTSD was slowly resolved. Do you not remember? After she confronted Zaheer again, she was FINALLY able to ACCEPT WHAT HAPPENED TO HER AND MOVE FORWARD. That doesn’t mean what happened to her will forever be gone or be fixed, but it will continue to affect what she does in the future (i.e. how she treats Kuvira, how she carries herself as a person, etc.). Actually, do you remember during Kuvira and Korra’s final battle when Kuvira metalbended that metallic-looking meteorite straight at Korra? Didn’t you realize just how similar and frightening it looked to the metallic poison used to try and kill Korra? And what did Korra do when that thing was coming STRAIGHT AT HER? She FACED IT HEAD ON AND THREW IT BACK AT KUVIRA! That was a subtle, but VERY powerful scene. It was very symbolic to her moving forward. (I’m talking about this scene: http://photos.vanityfair.com/2014/12/19/54944ba598f2d00004aca9cb_korra-kuvira.gif. In animation, everything means something because of costs and this was very symbolic to everything Korra’s been through)

        Mako: So? Do you think you’re FINALLY ABLE TO FORGET what happened to you?
        Korra: …No…but I AM READY TO ACCEPT what happened to me and …I think that’s only going to MAKE ME STRONGER.

        Korra had the entire season to finally accept what happened and take that to move forward. In the end, its easy to forget what happened but its a lot harder to accept everything that’s happened and move forward and that has been the main issue blocking Korra from fully recovering. Wouldn’t you rather have her accept and become stronger from all of this? Because that’s what she did after 3 long years of suffering, trauma, and hardship. That moment when she finally said that and the music “To Heal” played, that was the most poignant and heartwarming moment for me, because at that point, all I saw was my own recovery reflected in Korra’s. She’s come a long way.

        “And Asami stopped but I am sure she would have had an argument with Korra, a full-fledged one if Wu hadn’t interrupted. Good.”

        I have no complaints here, this is why I don’t really like Wu intruding on Team Avatar business. HOWEVER, although I admit that sometimes things do need to be said out loud, at the same time, judging by how they both were still very in sync and happy around another afterwards, it still turned out completely fine. When Korra apologized to both Mako and Asami after rescuing Wu, Asami even said it was okay, which was basically her acknowledging what happened earlier and letting it go. By now, everything cooled them between all of them and things are a lot more clear and with Asami’s “it’s okay” and “there’s bound to be a bit of an adjustment period”, she already realized that she snapped when Korra was just coming from a place of concern. Korra in turn, also quietly acknowledges Asami was coming from a place of frustration and hurt. One thing I love about this grown up Korra is she doesn’t resort to yelling like a hothead anymore when dealing with arguments. She’s a lot more levelheaded, calm, and EVEN sensitive when dealing with an argument (again, much like Aang who takes the same approach) and this greatly shines a light in how far Korra’s come in how she deals with situations, issues, and arguments. In animation, sometimes its what you do that says it all. I don’t need to constantly have characters say things out loud for me to understand. This was subtle writing. By the end of the episode, Korra and Asami are back on good terms and they both quietly acknowledged what happened earlier and let it go.

        “Mako tells her that she never needs to thank him. He will follow her into battle no matter what. That is what a friend says. A lover says. It is one of the beautiful statements of love ever”

        Yes I already admitted this was a very touching and heartwarming scene, but that still doesn’t mean Mako and Korra should get back together. And this is why I keep saying male-female friendships in media are so underrated. Why? Because it always has to turn romantic to the audience for some reason. Here, what I loved about this Makorra scene was how close they were AS FRIENDS despite everything. That is something I appreciate more than say if Makorra became a romantic pairing YET AGAIN. I’ll also admit that MAYBE JUST MAYBE Mako may also have some lingering feelings for Korra, but she was his first love and you feel deeply for your first loves. Your first loves will always be special. Still doesn’t mean they should get back together, because ever since the end of S2, FOR 2 SEASONS, there was nothing to hint at a renewal of their romance. The only reason people “keep seeing” that hinting of a renewal is because of their romantic history. Since they were lovers before, OF COURSE people are naturally still going to see it as nothing as that. EVERY SINGLE INTERACTION WILL SADLY BE SEEN AS THAT! THIS is also why I appreciate this last Makorra scene even more. Bryke subverted the cliche and trope when it came to male-female relationships in general.

        “IT FIT KORRA’S CHARACTER AND WHO SHE IS. Avatar or not she is one who goes into battle as we have seen in Books 1 and 2. That shapes who she is. Not some random vacation. I am saying Korrasami could have better but in canon it isn’t. It hasn’t shaped what Asami’s philosophies are. Who she is as a person.”

        Did I ever say that a random vacation shaped who Korra was? No! You’re the one who said that. In my review of Korra’s character development, I already addressed and know who Korra is as a person. This vacation is just a fuckin’ vacation to take a break. I only said after ALL THE SHIT THEY’VE BEEN THROUGH, THEY BOTH DESERVE SOME DAMN R&R! Or did you forget that in the ATLA comics, the Gaang basically took a mini-vacation and some R&R as well before addressing the aftermath of what happened? Here, its no different and judging by what Mike (who is doing the story for the LOK comics) and Irene Koh (main artist for LOK comics) both said in multiple interviews, this vacation they’re on isn’t going to be that long, but its something they both needed to rest. Korra may be the Avatar, but she isn’t a machine that can’t have a break. She’s been through a lot and this is going to be the first time in a long time for her to actually rest and be happy before MORE shit hits the fan because the world still needs her.

        “It hasn’t shaped what Asami’s philosophies are. Who she is as a person.”

        …Okay, now I know you haven’t been reading some of the things I’ve been saying about Asami, because I already addressed this. Asami’s philosophies? Who she is as a person? Give me a break!! I already told you!

        What I said in an earlier comment:
        “One of the things I love and admire about Asami is the type of person she is. For a young CEO, she’s a pretty mature, strong, generous, caring, and very forgiving person who knows right from wrong. The defining moment for her character actually takes place pretty early on back in S1 when she turned against her dad. That moment said a lot about what kind of person she was and from there on out, everything she did in the show (collectively!!) constantly reaffirmed that. She could’ve sided with her dad over a bunch of people she was barely starting to know and why wouldn’t she? Hiroshi was her last living family member! It took great courage and a strong sense of morality and justice for what she did. Yes, a firebender killed her mom but she still knew right from wrong and what her dad was doing was wrong. That is the kind of person she was for someone her age back in S1. She’s also surprisingly a mix of Katara, Zuko, and Aang when you really think about it. Like Katara in that she’s very supportive, caring, and has a strong sense of morality and justice and like Katara in that she can hold one hell of a grudge lol. Like Zuko in the parallels she shares with her own father and how she had to restore the honor of Future Industries as Zuko had to do for the Fire Nation. Like Aang, Asami is really forgiving, especially after she’s been deeply wronged and hurt (I.e. Willing to try to forgive her father despite how much he hurt her, willing to work with Varrick again despite the double cross, not holding any ill will towards Mako and Korra despite getting the short end of the stick in the love-triangle, etc.). If anything, Asami’s basically the ideal best friend ever! Someone who’s badass but very generous, caring, forgiving, loyal and supportive AND hell is she one supportive friend!”

        ALL OF THAT^^ addressed your questions of “Who is Asami as a person” and “What are her philosophies”. All of it was shown through her actions and that is great AND subtle writing. I don’t need to be spoonfed information about her character. I actually delve into her character and try to understand her, because that is the point of a story with characters and the point of a character study. This is also why I’m telling you you don’t understand Asami both as a character nor as a person. Heck, I can even infer what her hobbies are just by what she does and what she talks about all throughout the show.

        “I don’t lie or give shallow facts. I state the actual events and why they could have been better.”

        I disagree seeing as I’ve been consistently giving you actual evidence from the show (and even the artbooks) of everything that Asami is yet you keep denying it. EVEN SOME OF THE MAJOR EVENTS AND MOMENTS I’VE GIVEN YOU were brushed off as not “vital” or as her “doing nothing in the series”. That is a pure lie and denial there. To say she contributed nothing noteworthy or that she did NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER is a lie!! If that is true, then how come I am able to present to you a lot of major events and moments she took part in and even contributed to FROM THE SHOW ITSELF? I even explained each of those major events and moments in great depth after you straight out brushed it aside. I gave you IN-CANON EVIDENCE! FACTS!

      10. Also, my F-bombs is just how I talk when I get passionate, but mostly because I can’t italicize or bold things on this.

      11. I also just realized this site deleted a chunk of my explanations for this part so I’ll just rewrite what I said here about some of the MAJOR events and moments that Asami was vital in and greatly contributed to. You can’t simply take her out and fill her role with someone else WITHOUT changing ALREADY ESTABLISHED character backstory and skill-sets.

        Her turning on her dad!

        What did you think would have happened if Asami had not come down there to electrocute her dad and the Lieutenant? The others would’ve ended up on their way to Amon by the end. Keep in mind that at the time, all of Lin’s metalbending cops were subdued and both Mako and Bolin had their hands full with an injured and unconscious Korra, Tenzin, and Lin. Not only that, but there were largely outnumbered and both Hiroshi and the Lieutenant had them right where they wanted. Asami saved them, because she chose for herself to come down and see the truth for herself DESPITE BEING TOLD TO NOT GO DOWN THERE. Her dad offered her a chance to join him, which Asami in turn used to subdue him and the Lieutenant. This allowed all of them to escape from Amon’s grasp!!

        Her providing the necessary transportation and resources for the team!

        Her piloting the fighter plane when trying to clear a path for the others to the Northern portal as well as coming up with the plan of attack in the first place!

        What is there to say for this? Thanks to her plan and her piloting skills along with Mako and Bolin, they were able to deal an effective blow against the Northern Army. Bumi later luckily wiped the rest of them out, but there was hardly any troops left to deal with.

        Her freeing Korra and getting Korra and the EK airship crew out of that desert!

        Here, even if someone else were to take Asami’s place, without the technological and engineering know-how, I highly doubt they’d be able to escape that cell. It was thanks to Asami’s knowledge of Cabbage Corp’s cheap and inferior products that she was able to escape herself and go free Korra. Later when they were all stranded in the desert, the majority of the airship crew didn’t know what to do other than listening to their Captain and waiting for reinforcements to arrive. IT was Asami that started fixing up the banged up airship and later when it was destroyed by the sandshark, IT was Asami that came up with the idea to fashion a sand-sailor to escape the desert. She utilize her skills and her brilliance to save them.

        Her rebuilding her company from the ground up that enabled a lot more technological advancements later on!

        Who else could’ve unconditionally provided everything for the team? Varrick is always in it for himself and he doesn’t have all the huge resources that Asami has at her disposal, Raiko isn’t all that welcoming when it comes the Team Avatar, and Tenzin’s bison wasn’t going to cut it. Not to mention the rail system she developed and built to connect the entire Earth Kingdom (including RC), all the mecha suits provided to fight against Kuvira, the wingsuits developed for the new Air Nation, the hummingbird suits created to take down Kuvira.

        Her infrastructure work and rail system!

        With the rail system, a lot of the citizens of RC were able to evacuate during Kuvira’s attack and thanks to her infrastructure work, she helped restore harmony back to RC by uniting and incorporating spirits and spirit vines in the way with RC. Not only that, but she also helped create a lot more tourist businesses as a result.

        Her creation of the wingsuits for the Air Nation (confirmed by Bryke)!

        The wingsuits were used effectively all throughout S4 and most especially against the fight with Kuvira. You couldn’t ask for something more versatile and efficient. All the airbenders, both old and new, were able to move a lot more quickly and efficiently as a result and they all used that to their advantage in every situation.

        Her reconciling with her dad that inevitably helped in taking down Kuvira!

        It was her dad that came up with the idea to take Kuvira down as well as helping to get everyone inside Kuvira’s giant mech (“You must act like an infection: break the skin and attack its vital organs, disconnect the heart and the brain and this beast cannot live”). He was also the one to add an electrical element to the welding torch on Asami’s HUMMINGBIRD SUITS to convert it into a plasma saw (that cuts through platinum) in order to cut through Kuvira’s giant mech that was made out of platinum. This was very vital!! Hiroshi helped them because he loved RC but it was MAINLY because of HIS LOVE FOR HIS DAUGHTER. He wanted to redeem himself in her eyes and sadly, he did when he was crushed to death in front of her.

        Her hummingbird suits she came up with (according to Varrick) to get the team inside Kuvira’s giant mech!

        What else is there to say here other than what I already explained in the previous one? Simply put, with the resources at her disposal as well as her skill-set, Asami was able to come up with a way to take down Kuvira. Her hummingbird suits were instrumental to that.

        If Sokka were still alive, he and Asami would’ve gotten along very very well. As a fellow nonbender, he too would understand and even be proud of the kind of person Asami was and her contributions to the Team AND the world.

      12. “I don’t need to be spoonfed information about her character.” Are you saying I don’t have the intelligence to infer character and understand them? That is uncalled for. And pretty mean statement. Just because we both infer characters doesn’t mean canon cannot and should not present those things. Also, Asami needed much more arcs.

        You giving me “proof” of Asami’s validity is JUST THAT. You presuming on what happened in the show more or less. And I have even critiqued KA on other angles which you ignored and didn’t care to address. And even if you get passionate it doesn’t give the right for you to deride my analytical skills and deride my character and actually drop f-bombs just because I am stating things that you don’t like.

        Asami doesn’t have a good philosophical arc. She never did. You telling me she is a mixture of Katara and Zuko and all of that is not what happened in the show. Zuko’s character arc is one of the driving forces of TLA. Asami does nothing as significant as Zuko and has none of her problems even talked about in B2. What are you talking about? Had anyone asked Asami what she felt about her Dad being in jail? Had anyone thought of telling her what she felt? Even her feelings are solely brought up in accordance with Mako. It should have more canon and contexts than that.

        Also Korra and Mako’s friendship was also a relationship. The fact that Korra and Mako does things together even by end of B4 pretty much shows why and how they had a relationship. It shows how it progressed and how they mutually evolved. Korra and Mako give each other space to be themselves. That is why this was a relationship. Korra and Mako both needed that. You keep on saying you infer things so you can definitely see how Korra needs this space. So, this is important this relationship is to Korra. This was not forced. This was a very well written relationship that had highs and lows and then came together.

        I gave you in-canon evidence facts as well and gave you critiques beyond that. Instead of constantly calling me a liar just read through what I said and address me maturely. This is pretty unacceptable behaviour. If you keep on calling me liar how can I even have this discussion with you? I told you things and you keep on ignoring them. I studied your responses and told you how I felt the show was unfair to Asami. And Yes. Korra was toned down. Even some KA fans said that. I even gave you evidence IN-CANON how she was. You just don’t want to read it.

      13. The only thing that Asami did was make the wingsuits in B4 that has some credence. Even so, it was done off-screen. It shouldn’t have. That was important and should have been put on the screen. The fact it wasn’t is pretty telling. Other things don’t. I already explained why Asami’s B1-B3 arc was liminal and could have written better and giving more significance. It wasn’t. I mean Mako and Bolin also got cartoon shorts such as Republic City days and Asami has nothing. Seriously, Bryke didn’t care about her character. I know they didn’t. If they did they would have just made her more prominent and go with Equalist Asami.

      14. Yeahhh I read some of my comments again and yeah I can see how a lot of the things I said came off a bit abiding at you lol. Sorry. I need to work on that. I’m told that when I get passionate and when I vehemently disagree, I can unconsciously get a bit too into it to the point where some of the things I say comes off a certain way. Well other than me straight out calling you certain things, I don’t mean to be snide.

        And yes, let’s hope for the best when the comics come out. I have high hopes considering they’ll have more creative freedom, less restraints, and more time now to actually write how they want to write. I can’t wait till July 26th! I’m picking up a copy at my local comic book store. I actually heard from those who already got a copy at SDCC that Korrasami is focused on in the comics but it isn’t TOO HEAVILY focused on as some fans were worried of. That and Korrasami was also well written, but we’ll just have to see.

      15. Actually, the series went online. So, they had the opportunity to develop Korrasami a lot more than they could have. Listen, I respect you like Korrasami. However, I am still firm on the point that it came out of nowhere and that Bryke didn’t really think about it. And, my feelings and analyses are being reaffirmed from what I am seeing now in Turf Wars.

        Also, I am in a semi-conservative country. In my country, even het stuff is frowned upon. In various animes, given the demographic I noticed that straight sex and hookups are also kept in the low. They don’t even always show kisses outside marriage (het marriage) or orientations of people. Yet anime, subtly and even overtly showed gay couples and feelings from 90s. “Cardcaptor Sakura” , “Revolutionary Girl Utena” and “Neon Genesis Evangelion” comes to mind when queer feelings and queer identities were explored. A popular wallpaper since 2000-2002 was Rey Ayanami and Asuka Langley having a full blown kiss and being naked.

        It was not only male gaze in those works. The protagonists of all these animes have queer leanings and even bisexual/gay orientations. They were subtle about it then pushed the envelope in a more heteronormative world and went for it to make it overt. Also “Yuuri on Ice” went full blown with a gay kiss in their airing. “Free!” did the same showing two guys sharing a bed and almost having a subtle romantic atmosphere. These were all shows aired in communities that are not necessarily queer friendly. So, no. KA could have done more, even interactions more, to show that they have deep feelings for each other.

        It is not necessarily accurate to believe het relationships have always an advantage when I am in a country where both are equally frowned upon or ignored. I know a full blown kiss between Korra and Mako would also be judged. An example, studios were uncomfortable drawing the ending Kataang kiss. They asked Bryke again if they needed to make that kiss THAT deep and Bryke pushed it and said yes, that deep. So, yes. There are problems more or less on every depiction. If KA was to be canon endgame it should have been well interactions from B2. You yourself agreed with me that Asami had less screen time. That in itself to me is a problem on many levels. So, I firmly believe Asami is not a good partner for character. I want a relationship between equals. Whether het or queer.

        “Korra is still a hothead, as quick to get overexcited about telling her parents about her new relationship as she is to get angry at the injustice of the displacement caused by Kuvira’s assault on Republic City, although now she has the benefit of Asami by her side as a calming influence”

        This is what io9 wrote recently about Turf Wars. I have seen the scenes Korra loses it. If this was old Korra she would have snapped at Asami too as Asami, I saw, acts the same way and gives the same advice Mako gave in B2. Korra should be snapping at Asami. They should be having similar conflicts and be on equal footing. They are not. They are not because Bryke is too busy making fans happy than writing what is real. Writing what needs to be written. Queer relationships are like het relationships. They are not some happily ever after fairy tales. It is as much of a myth to think a princess will make you happy as a prince does.

        I am gonna read the comics. But, I wished Korrasami was different. Not to mention people are mad that they did some horrible things to even canon TLA information about Fire Nation. This is going in a direction that may ultimately be a big mess. However, I wanna read the comics to make sure I make fair critiques, point out things I did like and then make a review that is worthy to be read and possibly deserves an answer.

      16. “Korra’s too aggressive”
        “Korra’s not aggressive enough”
        “Korra always wants to fight first instead of talking things out”
        “Korra talking things out? Just fight already”
        “Korra’s not like Aang, worst Avatar ever”
        “Korra’s too much like Aang, worst Avatar ever”
        “I hate (old) Korra, I want her to change already”
        “I miss the old Korra…I hate this new Korra”

        LOL honestly what I see all the time when it comes to what Korra does and doesn’t do^^

        Why I’m bringing this up? Well, it’s because I’m a bit sad that I have to see a repeat of this again with the comics – where no matter what Korra does, its always a lose-lose situation for her with some fans. At the same time though, I find it hilarious how said some people in the fandom STILL doesn’t know what they want with Korra. I mean this in response to Korra acting angry and “overexcited” with her dad’s response about their relationship. Of course Korra would get defensive about something like that. She always has when it came to personal matters relating to her (she even got hella defensive and angry when Zaheer acted like he knew what was going on with Korra in S4). I saw some people saying how Korra was “tamed” or “turned down” in S4, but that was because she went through some hard shit and was still dealing with it so of course she wasn’t going to exhibit the same ole Korra personality that we know. Here, she’s already took that big step in moving on and just trying to be happy again so of course she’s going to try and go back to her usual self. That doesn’t mean she hasn’t changed though. Like I said before, growth isn’t a linear thing, there’s always going to be a push and pull. Korra got a bit angry and hotheaded then after she cooled down, she acknowledged how quick she’s to anger and “overexcitedness” at times.

        Anyways, thought I share that since that’s what I’m seeing in the fandom (again) at the moment.

      17. Well, fandom has always been a bit hypocritical. The things you are seeing now is something I mentioned in earlier posts. People don’t always like Korra. They usually hate Mako too. They like Asami and some other people and that is why fandom usually has a biased opinion on Korra. The comics didn’t help improve that and won’t necessarily. The comics are usually going to help people who have been a fan of KA. I didn’t like what I saw aside the KA kiss scene. It was just not what I felt their relationship would be if they had one. It is not even something that Janet Varney said. It was done to make a particular crowd happy.

        About the father defensive thing, yes, Korra can be mad about that. However, she is acting in many scenes like B2 Korra. Which is not bad. What is bad is that Asami is doing the same thing that Mako did in showing her an alternative path and being gentle. Korra should sometimes snap at Asami then. Growth is not linear. Neither is recovery. The comic completely erases Korra as a PTSD survivor and it doesn’t show how questioning her now may make her unhappy especially because of her trauma. Yes, she can realise later on Asami meant the right thing (as she did with Mako) but that conflict is necessary. There should also be personal opinions about Asami centered on her culture and her family beliefs and things like that. If I can think this much the comic should have done better as I am not paid to write unfortunately.

        People were annoyed about Sozin homophobe story because frankly, he caused an air nomad genocide which is equivalent to Ramses hunting down Hebrew people for Moses. That was in itself a great crime. And, sometimes people like that don’t really care about gender and sexual orientation. They care about oppressing people. Putting that on Fire Nation is just criminalising another group of people. Seeing that Fire Lord can also be women I don’t think that nation is inherently queerphobic. None of them are. They are based on Eastern nations and religions which before primarily Western modernization, urbanization, colonisation and war did not have a large homophobic mindset. Seeing I studied about this I should know.

        People were also let down on the fact that they wanted more on the first volume but didn’t get it. I am sure they would have gotten a lot more if the writers were thinking in that direction. I just think the world of avatar is rich and I can see a lot of potential in this world aside from vacations and some trash talk on Raiko who is a jerk and glad he is getting called out. Takuga is like my only fav thing in this comic at the moment aside the kisses. I am interested knowing about the second one because I am interested in seeing Zhu Li become president.

    2. “I’m sorry, but again, Asami is not who you make her out to be and at this point, I’m extremely frustrated at how far off you’re with her character. Its one thing to not like a character, but to deny what kind of person she really is despite the amount of factual evidence from the show itself…I don’t know what else to say. To be frank, I’m very used to defending Korra as a character, but never in my life since I’ve watched LOK, have I ever had to vehemently defend Asami and rebuff these lies about her.”

      I didn’t lie about Asami. I do not hate Asami and if I did I would gladly state it. It is very rude to say that when I haven’t said anything negative about what you said. You and I came with the agreement that Asami did things presumably behind the scenes and that as we don’t know it can make or break a character. What gain do I have of lying about Asami Sato? Is she a real person? No she isn’t. And, furthermore I hate undermining and lying about real people and also fictional characters. I stated that Asami is actually one of my favourites because she has the potential to be more than what Bryke showed her to be. Asami doesn’t fill up the gaps of Korra. She herself is a gap. You didn’t give factual evidences. The things you mentioned I refuted and stated that they were in all honesty problematic. The growth of industry and infrastructure is not Future Industries alone. This aspect will be somewhat explored in Turf Wars 2 not the first one which is a very cloyed version of Korrasami. Turf Wars 2 actually has Zhu Li wanting to be President and talks about housing problems about Republic City ever since the New Spirit Portal opened. The entire Spirit World issue of B3 is swept under the rug in B4. Asami made a bridge that connect Zhao Fu and Republic City as Zhao Fu is becoming a conglomerate city as Republic City. About the Spirit vines, perhaps she alone did that, we are not sure. Mako and Bolin has helped bring stability to Republic City and Earth Kingdom. Those are really high level jobs. Jinora has become the first new Air Master in eons and has reshaped Air Nation culture with her Father. In this regard, Asami could have done more but that opportunity was never given to her. B4 should have started that during that time Asami and Korra was separated Asami had made up with her father and they now work together and are building new stuff. It would have interesting if Hiroshi brought up Asami thinks about a certain someone and if past arcs were also written do you realise how beautiful Korrasami would have been? So, I am, actually bringing about potential that the show had with factual evidences. It is really negative in a discussion to drop several f-bombs and think I am lying. Especially, when I think if you were one of the writers of the show you would probably give Asami the sort of development she needed.

      1. ” If anything, she needed to grow and mature to have reached the same level as Asami and that is exactly the type of person Korra ended up as by the end.” This is exactly a problematic statement. Why does she need to be in the same level of Asami? The show is Legend of Korra not Legend of Asami and not Legend of Korrasami. You just shifted the frame to Asami in the way KA fans do by not talking about the significance of Korra in her own show. At least Makorra and Korvira fans talk about how Mako and Kuvira seem right for Korra. How they also suffered with her and similar, not same, to her. What you just said is one of the very strong reasons why Korrasami has a problem.

        “If anything is shallow, its this false fact of Asami.” No Asami is portrayed shallow-like. It is not her it is the writing.

        “As a PTSD survivor myself, I take offense to this. Just because we suffered horrible shit doesn’t mean my loved ones can’t call me out on my bullshit when it’s needed.” Yeah, but you wouldn’t want people to yell at you unceremoniously. Another PTSD survivor told me that scene made them cringe. And rightfully so. It wasn’t a well written scene. And Korra’s PTSD is muted. She didn’t grow up or resolve things. Mental health doesn’t happen this way. We both know that.

        “She rarely snaps so excuse her for her a moment where she just lets it out. A good relationship is putting bare all your feelings and communicating with each other. Too bad Wu interrupted their argument, because I’m sure Korra would’ve had space and time to say what she needed to say. Notice how Asami didn’t say anything while Korra was STARTING to explain herself better UNTIL Wu interrupted them. This is why he’s annoying.”

        You know you are pretty much pointing out the flaws that made Asami a relegated character. Asami should have chances to scream and shout and snap like Korra, Mako and Bolin. But Bryke stole that agency from her. They didn’t give her that scope. She handled her pain with repression and passive-aggressiveness. That is not healthy. And, Bryke made her do it for years. This is really unrealistic. And Asami stopped but I am sure she would have had an argument with Korra, a full-fledged one if Wu hadn’t interrupted. Good. That would have been more realistic than just a one side screaming and Korra just taking Asami’s shit and feeling cornered and nervous. She did feel cornered and nervous. Asami should have read that and apologised. Mako was unhappy and worried but he never once screamed at Korra. The last scene when Korra feels she needs to resolve things with Mako — YES WITH MAKO I AM HIGHLIGHTING — even by end of B4 that is VERY TELLING. She says “Thank You isn’t enough” and Mako tells her that she never needs to thank him. He will follow her into battle no matter what. That is what a friend says. A lover says. It is one of the beautiful statements of love ever.

        IT FIT KORRA’S CHARACTER AND WHO SHE IS. Avatar or not she is one who goes into battle as we have seen in Books 1 and 2. That shapes who she is. Not some random vacation. I am saying Korrasami could have better but in canon it isn’t. It hasn’t shaped what Asami’s philosophies are. Who she is as a person. In B3 that was the only time Asami seemed to be involved even in a slight way in Krew. So here staying or leaving Krew was never the issue as she herself, as you keep on mentioning, put focus on her company.

        I don’t lie or give shallow facts. I state the actual events and why they could have been better.

      2. Again, I can’t help the F-bombs when I get passionate lol. In any case, they are just words in the end. If they offended you, I apologize. If anything, you should take it as a compliment when I start dropping F-bombs like this. I usually don’t curse but when I do, its usually because I’m very serious and passionate about what I’m discussing. When it comes to ATLA and LOK, that’s no exception.

        In any case, at this point, I feel we’ll be going in circles with this so I’m just going to have to agree to disagree with everything you’ve said thus far. I know I can’t change your mind about Asami now and I’m hoping that if you ever decide to rewatch LOK again, to please give Asami as a character and as a person another chance while taking into account everything that I have said about her. Well anyways, I hope you have a nice day and I hope to meet you in discussion again.

      3. Also, I forgot to add this, but I did in fact read everything you said and I still just don’t agree with your assessment of Asami. She’s not considered the good and sweetheart of a person if she were all of those things. This is why I still disagree. What I’m seeing is a huge twisting of her personality and character. Its the same as someone saying Korra had no character development or growth. That’s just what I’m seeing here. Sorry if you also don’t agree with this.

      4. “Okay, I should’ve probably explained myself better. Korra doesn’t NEED to be on the same level as Asami BUT by the end, she WAS on the same level as Asami. Hmm actually no she was probably even a little past Asami in emotional maturity after everything she’s had to deal with.” No, this is not the statement you wanted to say. You wanted to say she reached the same level as Asami. That was your original statement and it is usually the mindset of KA fans and Asami. A notable KA fan is also pretty annoyed and upset at this thinking. Like, Mako also went through a lot and when Korra is feeling down Asami couldn’t cheer her up and was making her feel worse. Korra was reassured by Mako and Tenzin. The fact Mako knows how Korra thinks and feels is the reason why their relationship works and would be good endgame. ANother person who got it a bit by the end was Kuvira. Like Kuvira and Korra mirror each other a lot. Korra was steadfast, when others weren’t, that Kuvira is a good person just wrong direction. I am not gonna give kudos to bad writing. Asami needed more and still needs more. The comic previews also eradicated and erased B1. Korra tells Asami that Asami is the only person who got her a particular way. That is a lie. Korra’s intensity and passion were acknowledged by Mako, Bolin and finally Tenzin and Lin. But Mako appreciated she was boisterous, loud and unabashed in what she wanted to say. He loved that both of them could be vulnerable in front of each other too. And Asami says in comic that she remembered how frightened Korra was in the racecar. Like even a KA fan pointed where was Korra frightened? She was excited and thrilled as anything! So no all of this is seriously BAD writing. I hope the comics don’t keep on pushing KA in this superficial direction. Then everything would suck.

      5. Even if you dropped f bombs out of passion I can ignore that. However, you did say some snide comments to me when you were defending Asami. It wasn’t nice and it was personal. Yes, I have rewatched the series. That is why I was frustrated. Asami should have been given more as a character but she wasn’t. If she was I would have been more than happy with outcomes. In fact, even recently a fan asked to Mike that given that perhaps LOK had less episodes will you detail more stuff in comics and give more character arcs for characters for example, Asami. And Mike said yes. Pretty much agreeing with that statement. That’s why comics will also focus on well, the firebender who killed Asami’s mom. Like sure. Mako and Bolin’s parents were also kissed by a firebender. Would be nice if that was also shown. In TLA both Katara and Zuko’s mothers were focused. So yes. These things I do take into consideration.

        We may disagree. But I know you have the best interests in heart for Asami like me. Well, hopefully, some of the things come true in the comics for you and me. Have a good day. Stay in peace and prosperity.

    3. Well, I am glad you realised that your comments can be interpreted as coming off as personal attacks. Perhaps you didn’t mean to sound like that but it takes courage to admit when someone might be wrong in behaving in something. So, Thank You. I am glad we can discuss things civilly. I don’t mind if I disagree even if I thought some unkind things about your statements I know you as a person do reflect and that is great.

      I think we both agreed that Asami had less screen time. Trust me, I can infer a lot about Asami as well. I can even write to you a fanfiction and show what I know about Asami. But, showing subtle details and overt details about characters is what we paid for and why we watch the show. I wanted those things to be in the show as Asami was supposed to be an important character. Like I stated, I hardly think about Mako and Bolin in my headcanons. I usually think about Asami and Korra. Asami has the potential, in what I have seen and discerned from the series and additional info, but I feel she hasn’t gotten there yet. I mean we need to see on-screen things or have novelisations nor else things feel disorientating. It becomes a too thin line between fanon and canon. I did like one scene in the comics when Korra and Asami are rock climbing. I didn’t like how it went eventually but I liked the idea of them rock climbing together. It was a great comeback to racecar Asami days.

      ” they’ll have more creative freedom, less restraints, and more time now to actually write how they want to write” I do believe they had tons of creative freedom on LOK. It had less writers who shot down their ideas. IN TLA many of their ideas were turned down and they turned down the dark avatar concept by Aaron Ehasz. Ehasz’s idea was that Aang would be corrupted after learning energy bending as it could lead to problems. Also Zuko and Katara would get closer and were planned to be endgame. Bryke also wanted a love triangle between Katara, Toph and Aang, and Toph was originally planned to be a guy until Ehasz objected. Ehasz also made Azula into a girl and Iroh into a positive father figure because Bryke wanted Azula to be a guy and Iroh to be just an Uncle who wanted the throne. I do believe that if other writers like Ehasz was in the show Korra’s bisexual orientation would be a bit more hinted by B2. It would have been great seeing that a lead character being bisexual and hinting on it was important. I love that Asami is bisexual. It completely went against the grain of what her character was like in the beginning. It is very non-gender normative.

      Well, I do also want to read the comics. I want to read especially Turf Wars 2. I want to see Zhu Li as President as Raiko is a jerk. I have heard differently about Korrasami and seen differently but I do hope that the plot and character interactions even between Korra and Mako, and Korra and Bolin, and the others are equally given importance to. I wonder what Mako’s path would be right now. I am especially interested in his solo arcs, Bolin’s solo arcs and Asami”s solo arcs. Asami painfully needs her solo arcs. I would like arcs focusing on how Asami is as a person and all of that.

      Sometimes, when I am speaking to you I feel like I am speaking to someone who is somehow related to the comics of LOK or something. Just a feeling. Could be wrong.

      1. Just acknowledging when I can be wrong.

        Yes, let’s hope for the best for everyone.

        They didn’t have as much creative freedom as people actually thought. If they had then Nickelodeon wouldn’t have halted S1 production because of Korra’s gender and Bryke and the studio wouldn’t have had to fight for Korra. There’s also the matter of Korrasami itself. When the idea took place, keep in mind it was 2013-2014. Nick may have allowed it but they still limited what could be shown. Back then, gay marriage wasn’t even legalized in all 50 states yet and LOK was also still airing abroad (abroad to where some places are heavily anti-gay). As a result, Korrasami had to be a lot more subtle and even less obvious than most of the romantic relationships written. In a way, this is also why I find trying to put Makorra and Korrasami on equal footing such as comparisons is a bit unfair at times. Truth be told, one advantage Makorra will always have over Korrasami is that it isn’t a same-sex relationship and therefore, the writers can be more obvious and open with how they write it. But with the comics, its different. With the comics, they can do so many more things they couldn’t before. Heck, even Irene Koh already confirmed that there will be kisses and that was something that couldn’t even be shown on the show itself.

        In ATLA, many ideas were turned down, changed, or made better but that’s just the whole fleshing out process overall. Creative writing isn’t a linear thing. Bryke started things with original ideas but that doesn’t mean they won’t be subject to change later. They only had those original ideas in order to pitch a show to Nickelodeon, then once the show was actually a thing, they then brought on a bunch of other writers to help flesh out everything and bring things to life. You know that ATLA was actually supposed to originally take place far into the future, right? Well, Bryke was originally going to do something like that but later were inspired to change it. It happens.

        Oh I’m sure we’ll get am arc with everyone at one point. They did it with the ATLA comics, I’m sure the LOK comics will be the same as well. For Mako specifically, I do know that Bryke said that his romantic experience with both Korra and Asami will help him be a better and more balanced lover in the future, so I’m pretty excited to see something like that someday if they ever decide to have Mako meet someone new.

        “Sometimes, when I am speaking to you I feel like I am speaking to someone who is somehow related to the comics of LOK or something. Just a feeling. Could be wrong”

        Lol if only. That would be a huge honor but sadly I can’t write for shit, or at least, I can’t creative write for shit.

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